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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: GTaye on 01 September 2009, 22:19

Title: Not quite perfect...
Post by: GTaye on 01 September 2009, 22:19
Well picked the car up this morning and about 70 miles later heres the story, mark on drivers side rear Monza 2 (not a kerbing but a vertical scratch) looks like it might be a manufacturing defect - no quibble, to be replaced; rear bumper poor fitting with a variable panel gap (marked step in the rear passenger side wheel arch above the tyre) - a bit of pushing by a couple of techs seems to have improved it but again no quibble it will be removed and checked when it goes back for the new wheel and replaced if need be; been really heavy showers 'up North' today and worryingly there were a few drips of water coming through the passenger side front door (about were the headlining meets the A-pillar trim) when driving but after it had stopped raining (front door seals appear differently fitting to the rear) - will report it and get it seen to.  Bit annoyed that the PDI wasn't as good as it should have been (I know it's a busy time of year) - an obvious word of caution for those of you waiting to collect do a thorough check over before signing acceptance and if you have issues discuss with the salesman and agree a resolution then sign the acceptance form.

Will add a pic when I've worked out how to do it...


It's not all negative though...car great to drive; on the great DSG debate it's a thumbs up for me and Mrs GTaye who was not convinced but can now see the benefits! Looks great in Red too.  These next 1500km of running in can't come quickly enough  :grin:

Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: R32UK on 02 September 2009, 15:10
Good stuff gtaye!!

Shame about the poor pdi, but hopefully they wil sort it al out in dur course. WE NEED PICS!!!  :grin:

p.s. the is a very good, collecting your car check list over in the mk5 section... worth a look :nerd:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: matchboy on 02 September 2009, 15:12


p.s. the is a very good, collecting your car check list over in the mk5 section... worth a look :nerd:

link? can't see it on the search function!
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: VWKev on 02 September 2009, 15:13
Good stuff gtaye!!

Shame about the poor pdi, but hopefully they wil sort it al out in dur course. WE NEED PICS!!!  :grin:

p.s. the is a very good, collecting your car check list over in the mk5 section... worth a look :nerd:

Can you post the link please mate, I wouldnt be seen dead in that section I'm too lazy.  :grin:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Radek on 02 September 2009, 15:21
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=64432.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=64432.0)
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: matchboy on 02 September 2009, 15:26

Can you post the link please mate, I wouldnt be seen dead in that section I'm too lazy.  :grin:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: matchboy on 02 September 2009, 15:27
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=64432.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=64432.0)

excellent, thanks!  should you really go through that whole list?!  i don't know what half of the stuff is!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Radek on 02 September 2009, 15:29
I'm a little puzzled about the "bottle opener" (17). Is it a thing of the past (Mk V) :) ? Or do you expect to find one?
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: R32UK on 02 September 2009, 15:42
It should be in the little cubby hole under/behind the gear lever.. used to "open bottles" so yes it does look like a bottle opener and also used as a divide to hold cups in place!!  :nerd:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: p3asa on 02 September 2009, 16:43
Does the bottle holder come as standard for definite?
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: VWKev on 02 September 2009, 16:54
Thanks Radek
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: adw555 on 02 September 2009, 17:30
Does the bottle holder come as standard for definite?

yea, it should come as standard...although I kept the one from my mk 5 as it's all metal and a bit nicer  :wink:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: GTaye on 02 September 2009, 18:14
Excellent checklist that...would have been useful yesterday.  They've also set me up for the wrong service schedule (presuming you can go for either on the fixed price service plan? And should I have a piece of paper to cover that?)

R32UK how do I post photos?
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Gazdebaz on 02 September 2009, 18:49
You need to use a picture site on the net. Try flickr (http://www.flickr.com/) Upload your photos then insert these (copy and paste)using the hyperlink in the post page. (hover your mouse over the icons, for details)
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: VWmaindealer on 02 September 2009, 18:53
Does the bottle holder come as standard for definite?

yea, it should come as standard...although I kept the one from my mk 5 as it's all metal and a bit nicer  :wink:

It only comes as standard if you have the centre armrest option. A lot of these bottle openers were nicked before the car even got to the dealers!!!
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: R32UK on 02 September 2009, 19:01
Does the bottle holder come as standard for definite?

yea, it should come as standard...although I kept the one from my mk 5 as it's all metal and a bit nicer  :wink:

It only comes as standard if you have the centre armrest option. A lot of these bottle openers were nicked before the car even got to the dealers!!!

Armrest is std in the mk6!!! get it together VWmdm  :grin: :tongue:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Radek on 03 September 2009, 10:31
Can anyone confirm this point:
21.   If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some.

It's nothing but I like these small gadgets (the bag!)
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: R32UK on 03 September 2009, 14:47
Can anyone confirm this point:
21.   If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some.

It's nothing but I like these small gadgets (the bag!)

I didnt get any with the MK5.. but yes there should be some! you should check your oil reg too, as new engines tend to use that little bit more. :smiley:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 04 September 2009, 14:44
Can anyone confirm this point:
21.   If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some.

It's nothing but I like these small gadgets (the bag!)

I didnt get any with the MK5.. but yes there should be some! you should check your oil reg too, as new engines tend to use that little bit more. :smiley:

With VW, you generally only get the oil top up if you are on LL servicing.  For T&D, you have to buy your own!
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: R32UK on 04 September 2009, 18:46
Can anyone confirm this point:
21.   If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some.

It's nothing but I like these small gadgets (the bag!)

I didnt get any with the MK5.. but yes there should be some! you should check your oil reg too, as new engines tend to use that little bit more. :smiley:

With VW, you generally only get the oil top up if you are on LL servicing.  For T&D, you have to buy your own!

Is there any way I can check this TT? i can recall some thing that you can do to check how long you have left for your service can you not?? :undecided:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Rolfe on 04 September 2009, 21:17
My 12-year-old Peugeot has a dashboard display that tells you how long until your next service every time you turn on the engine, and a permanent warning signal (a little spanner!) that stays on once you're within 500 miles.

I gather there are two different service schedules depending on how you use the GTi, but once you've got that sorted, I'd be well disappointed if it doesn't have something at least as spiffy.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: jools on 04 September 2009, 23:06
On the Mk6 if you have the highline dash then go to the settings menu- scroll down until you see service, there should then be a subsection -I think it says 'info'  highlight this and it should tell you how long to next service.

These is also a reset function there as well, but will always change   back to time and distance  :smiley:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: keelaw on 05 September 2009, 08:13
On the Mk6 if you have the highline dash then go to the settings menu- scroll down until you see service, there should then be a subsection -I think it says 'info'  highlight this and it should tell you how long to next service.

These is also a reset function there as well, but will always change   back to time and distance  :smiley:


Is this based on how you drive, or is it a glorified stopwatch? :p


Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: jools on 05 September 2009, 12:27
If set to time/distance then yes its just a stopwatch.

On longlife then driving style journey lengths cold starts etc are all taken into acount and the service interval adjusted accordingly.

With the GTI you are best getting an oil change every 10,000 anyway and using L/Life oil
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 September 2009, 13:22
Can anyone confirm this point:
21.   If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some.

It's nothing but I like these small gadgets (the bag!)

I didnt get any with the MK5.. but yes there should be some! you should check your oil reg too, as new engines tend to use that little bit more. :smiley:

With VW, you generally only get the oil top up if you are on LL servicing.  For T&D, you have to buy your own!

Is there any way I can check this TT? i can recall some thing that you can do to check how long you have left for your service can you not?? :undecided:

Sit in car > turn on ignition and wait for usual warning lights to go out > put on seat belt (or wait for the seat belt reminder warning to go off) > press and HOLD, for at least 2 seconds the 00 trip reset button (your trip will initially change to 000.0, but then revert back to its previous miles, providing you keep the button held down) > et voila!

You should see both miles and days due to next serv.  If the days are more than 365, or the miles are more than 9,700 - then it has been set for LL!  :nerd:

If they HAVE set it for LL, and can't/won't set it to T&D, then you can do this yourself!  :wink: :smug:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 September 2009, 13:24
On the Mk6 if you have the highline dash then go to the settings menu- scroll down until you see service, there should then be a subsection -I think it says 'info'  highlight this and it should tell you how long to next service.

These is also a reset function there as well, but will always change   back to time and distance  :smiley:


Is this based on how you drive, or is it a glorified stopwatch? :p

Read this: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779

:afro:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: R32UK on 05 September 2009, 15:23
Can anyone confirm this point:
21.   If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some.

It's nothing but I like these small gadgets (the bag!)

I didnt get any with the MK5.. but yes there should be some! you should check your oil reg too, as new engines tend to use that little bit more. :smiley:

With VW, you generally only get the oil top up if you are on LL servicing.  For T&D, you have to buy your own!

Is there any way I can check this TT? i can recall some thing that you can do to check how long you have left for your service can you not?? :undecided:

Sit in car > turn on ignition and wait for usual warning lights to go out > put on seat belt (or wait for the seat belt reminder warning to go off) > press and HOLD, for at least 2 seconds the 00 trip reset button (your trip will initially change to 000.0, but then revert back to its previous miles, providing you keep the button held down) > et voila!

You should see both miles and days due to next serv.  If the days are more than 365, or the miles are more than 9,700 - then it has been set for LL!  :nerd:

If they HAVE set it for LL, and can't/won't set it to T&D, then you can do this yourself!  :wink: :smug:

Just checked my service book and Im defo on LL. Any tips on how to change it to T&D??? Last time I was told by my dealer than it would have to go back to the dealer that it came from :undecided:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: jools on 05 September 2009, 19:05
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Sit in car > turn on ignition and wait for usual warning lights to go out > put on seat belt (or wait for the seat belt reminder warning to go off) > press and HOLD, for at least 2 seconds the 00 trip reset button (your trip will initially change to 000.0, but then revert back to its previous miles, providing you keep the button held down) > et voila

Yes but thats for the mk5 on the mk6 if you have highline dash the service info can be found in the settings menu.

Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 September 2009, 23:50
Can anyone confirm this point:
21.   If there is no top up oil in a little bag in the boot ask for some.

It's nothing but I like these small gadgets (the bag!)

I didnt get any with the MK5.. but yes there should be some! you should check your oil reg too, as new engines tend to use that little bit more. :smiley:

With VW, you generally only get the oil top up if you are on LL servicing.  For T&D, you have to buy your own!

Is there any way I can check this TT? i can recall some thing that you can do to check how long you have left for your service can you not?? :undecided:

Sit in car > turn on ignition and wait for usual warning lights to go out > put on seat belt (or wait for the seat belt reminder warning to go off) > press and HOLD, for at least 2 seconds the 00 trip reset button (your trip will initially change to 000.0, but then revert back to its previous miles, providing you keep the button held down) > et voila!

You should see both miles and days due to next serv.  If the days are more than 365, or the miles are more than 9,700 - then it has been set for LL!  :nerd:

If they HAVE set it for LL, and can't/won't set it to T&D, then you can do this yourself!  :wink: :smug:

Just checked my service book and Im defo on LL. Any tips on how to change it to T&D??? Last time I was told by my dealer than it would have to go back to the dealer that it came from :undecided:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=39952  :wink:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: R32UK on 06 September 2009, 15:46
Thanks TT  :smiley:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: simonpolly on 06 September 2009, 18:16
Am i missing something here ? T and D = 12 months,24 months and 36 months service intervals starting from when you buy the car e.g first service 12 months after you brought the car.Longlife when the car tells you so,sounds easy enough to me :undecided:
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: jools on 06 September 2009, 18:54
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Am i missing something here ? T and D = 12 months,24 months and 36 months service intervals starting from when you buy the car e.g first service 12 months after you brought the car.Longlife when the car tells you so,sounds easy enough to me

Yes thats pretty much it- the parameters for L/life are between a  minimum - 1year /9300 miles and
max - 2 years/18600 miles.  Filters/plugs etc still have fixed intervals though.

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Just checked my service book and Im defo on LL. Any tips on how to change it to T&D???
This can be done via the settings in the highline dash- highlight service then reset, this will change to time/distance.  On the Mk6 the procedures have changed compare to mk5, not just when reseting by the dash but also when using vagcom etc.


Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 September 2009, 13:17
Am i missing something here ? T and D = 12 months,24 months and 36 months service intervals starting from when you buy the car e.g first service 12 months after you brought the car.Longlife when the car tells you so,sounds easy enough to me :undecided:

Erm, BOTH service regimes will tell you when you need a service.

The T&D is just a simple 'countdown' system - when 365 days have elapsed, OR 10k miles (actually 9,700 - because the system use kilometres to calculate) - whichever occurs first - is when you need a service.  Hence why T&D servicing is often referred to as 'fixed interval' servicing.

But the LongLife regime is slightly different.  Time-wise, a LL service can be needed anywhere between 12 months upto 24 months since the last service.  And distance-wise, it can be from as little as 10k miles, upto a max of 20k miles - IN THEORY.  In reality, those maximum mileages are only likely to be reached in a diesel, and NOT a petrol engine with a turbocharger.  It is fairly common for GTIs when incorrectly set to LL regime to call for a service after just 9,700 miles - which is exactly T&D territory - yet these customers then get ripped off, because they then have the more expensive LL service, when they could have had the much cheaper T&D oil change.


But the most crucial point - the T&D service is much better for your car, and especially so for a high performance car, such as a GTI.

HTH
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: simonpolly on 08 September 2009, 19:03
Does the mk6 gti come with a default setting for LL service then ?,On my service history in the owners manual they have ticked the t and d service intervals section but  on the trip computer it says LL.I have purchased the fixed price (£250) 3 year service plan 12 months,24,36 so i presume they will reset it after the first service but does it matter ? isn`t it just a way of the car telling you the car is due a service ? (as long as you get it serviced at the correct intervals)
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 September 2009, 22:58
Does the mk6 gti come with a default setting for LL service then ?,

ALL VAG engines are factory filled with LL oil, irrespective of weather they go to a country which can use LL or not.

But there is no such thing as a 'default' setting.  The service schedule is ONLY set by the suppling stealer as part of the PDI, and unfortunately, unless you specifically tell them you want the T&D, they automatically set it for LL.


On my service history in the owners manual they have ticked the t and d service intervals section

Which was done by a pen pusher at the stealer.


but  on the trip computer it says LL.

Clarify.  What exactly does it say?

Anyway, that will have been set by the grease monkey.


I have purchased the fixed price (£250) 3 year service plan 12 months,24,36 so i presume they will reset it after the first service but does it matter ? isn`t it just a way of the car telling you the car is due a service ? (as long as you get it serviced at the correct intervals)

But you don't expect to pay 20-odd grand for a brand new car, only to find they failed to correctly set it up! :rolleyes:  You pay a specific 'delivery charge', and part of that includes the dealer correctly preping and PDI-ing the car - and they failed to do it correctly.

If it is wrong, demand they set it correctly!
Title: Re: Not quite perfect...
Post by: simonpolly on 10 September 2009, 19:27
TheTrip computer was saying next service due in 700days or 20,000 miles i`ve just pressed reset and this has gone to 9800 miles or 370 days.I`ll just take it in when its one year old and get it serviced and tell them to set the service to t and d.