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Title: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: stevengeelan on 04 August 2009, 22:40
Got my 3 year service at the weekend.

Cost me £85. I thought this was pretty reasonable. How does it compare with the rest of the country?
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: bacillus on 04 August 2009, 22:43
What type of oil did they use?
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: 2007GTI on 05 August 2009, 11:41
I had a quote of £212 in london the other day for 3 year service.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: FamilyDub on 05 August 2009, 12:08
Got my 3 year service at the weekend.

Cost me £85. I thought this was pretty reasonable. How does it compare with the rest of the country?

For my 3 year I paid £140ish, less a 20% arnold clark manufacturer service voucher last week... took it to a VW franchise, spoke to the mechanic and he did a T&D service with the LL oil...

After discount it was about £118:- http://www.arnoldclark.com/images/servicing/pdfs/manu-serv-voucher.pdf (http://www.arnoldclark.com/images/servicing/pdfs/manu-serv-voucher.pdf)
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 16:17
£85!!, what did they do to it?? stand back and admire it FFS!!. The Longlife oil is nearly £50 on its own!!, they must of used crap oil to get price to that. Get that stuff out of the engine. Change your service regime , a yearly check for £85 , shocking. Brake fluid change is required if the car is older then a late Reg 56 plate. Was changed on newer cars due to the type of fluid fitting in factory.

Brake fluid service is £62 on its own.  :shocked:

Expect to Pay around £175-£225 (not including brake fluid change) for 3rd year service. 4th year is the biggy
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Rhyso on 05 August 2009, 16:25
sounds like a bargain for an oil change at VW

£50 of oil + half an hour's labour of approx £35 = £85

i'd want to know what they do for your £175 - £225 as to me that sounds like they are standing back and admiring it for that price!!

is the 3 year service JUST an oil change?
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 16:33
sounds like a bargain for an oil change at VW
is the 3 year service JUST an oil change?

Theres alot more to Just an oil change on a car thats 3 years old!.  If its £50 for longlife oil, £35 labour approx, wheres the Vat or oil filter, air filter, oil disposal charge and Brake fluid change , and all other bits that a car generally gets checked for an yearly service.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Rhyso on 05 August 2009, 16:38
sounds like a bargain for an oil change at VW
is the 3 year service JUST an oil change?

Theres alot more to Just an oil change on a car thats 3 years old!.  If its £50 for longlife oil, £35 labour approx, wheres the Vat or oil filter, air filter, oil disposal charge and Brake fluid change , and all other bits that a car generally gets checked for an yearly service.


could have been a special deal or they just used normal oil instead of longlife.  OP didn't state what type of oil was used

oil filters are less than a tenner, air filter less than £20 and brake fluid change YOU have to tell them you want it done so its quite easy to chop a few quid off.  Even more so if you do the work yourself  :smiley:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: JC on 05 August 2009, 16:44
first theres people wanting " cheap " tyres on a 5, now they are wanting cheap servicing  - next they will want cheap missing bhp searches too  :wink:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: AlanD on 05 August 2009, 16:46
Its all down here now on in.

Anyone know where I can find cheap brakes and cheap coilovers and a cheap cambelt replacement?
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 16:49
first theres people wanting " cheap " tyres on a 5, now they are wanting cheap servicing  - next they will want cheap missing bhp searches too  :wink:
or maybe having to run 2 cars instead of one reliable daily  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: JC on 05 August 2009, 16:51
cheap brakes are easy mate, plenty of mk3's being broke, just borrow a

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cheap lowering kit, just get these beauties in the back

(http://lovelifelikeyourself.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/fat-women-bbw-singles.jpg)

and use one of their thongs as a cambelt.

Job Done  :grin:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: JC on 05 August 2009, 16:53
and nice try phil, I run one car, its a daily. Golf is sorn, off the road from the day i bought the 'sat, and is just an investment now. Prices are on the up  :cool:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 17:27
Keep on topic  chuffty :wink:

Agree'd , id have a Mk2 project but i dont win that argument at home. Never mind. :sad:



Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: FamilyDub on 05 August 2009, 17:36
£85!!, what did they do to it?? stand back and admire it FFS!!. The Longlife oil is nearly £50 on its own!!, they must of used crap oil to get price to that. Get that stuff out of the engine. Change your service regime , a yearly check for £85 , shocking. Brake fluid change is required if the car is older then a late Reg 56 plate. Was changed on newer cars due to the type of fluid fitting in factory.

Brake fluid service is £62 on its own.  :shocked:

Expect to Pay around £175-£225 (not including brake fluid change) for 3rd year service. 4th year is the biggy

Shop around! As long as it's all being inspected to VW guidelines and the right type of LL oil is used, then all is well.

And tell me why a £175 service is better than a £125 service, when it's to the same standards?  :nerd:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Mew on 05 August 2009, 17:40
£85!!, what did they do to it?? stand back and admire it FFS!!. The Longlife oil is nearly £50 on its own!!, they must of used crap oil to get price to that. Get that stuff out of the engine. Change your service regime , a yearly check for £85 , shocking. Brake fluid change is required if the car is older then a late Reg 56 plate. Was changed on newer cars due to the type of fluid fitting in factory.

Brake fluid service is £62 on its own.  :shocked:

Expect to Pay around £175-£225 (not including brake fluid change) for 3rd year service. 4th year is the biggy

All based on fact, obviously
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 17:40
£85!!, what did they do to it?? stand back and admire it FFS!!. The Longlife oil is nearly £50 on its own!!, they must of used crap oil to get price to that. Get that stuff out of the engine. Change your service regime , a yearly check for £85 , shocking. Brake fluid change is required if the car is older then a late Reg 56 plate. Was changed on newer cars due to the type of fluid fitting in factory.

Brake fluid service is £62 on its own.  :shocked:

Expect to Pay around £175-£225 (not including brake fluid change) for 3rd year service. 4th year is the biggy

And tell me why a £175 service is better than a £125 service, when it's to the same standards?  :nerd:

Im not disputing that, but wouldnt you want to know for ONLY £85 what hasnt been done.We dont even know if this is a VW dealership that done it. The O.P hasnt stated.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 17:41
£85!!, what did they do to it?? stand back and admire it FFS!!. The Longlife oil is nearly £50 on its own!!, they must of used crap oil to get price to that. Get that stuff out of the engine. Change your service regime , a yearly check for £85 , shocking. Brake fluid change is required if the car is older then a late Reg 56 plate. Was changed on newer cars due to the type of fluid fitting in factory.

Brake fluid service is £62 on its own.  :shocked:

Expect to Pay around £175-£225 (not including brake fluid change) for 3rd year service. 4th year is the biggy

All based on fact, obviously

Well after having 3 more Mk5's then you Mew, then perhaps a touch more possibly  :rolleyes:

Your point for that remark is what?? . I havent got a clue what a mk1 or 2 is to service, and thats why i dont waste peoples time in your owned car section.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: FamilyDub on 05 August 2009, 17:45

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Im not disputing that, but wouldnt you want to know for ONLY £85 what hasnt been done.We dont even know if this is a VW dealership that done it. The O.P hasnt stated.
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Agreed.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Mew on 05 August 2009, 17:50

Well after having 3 more Mk5's then you Mew, then perhaps a touch more possibly  :rolleyes:

Irrelevant, but thankyou for sharing that.

Your point for that remark is what?? . I havent got a clue what a mk1 or 2 is to service, and thats why i dont waste peoples time in your owned car section.

How am i wasting time? The point is that you have no idea what oil was used in his service, yet you're telling him to get it changed?
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 18:05

Well after having 3 more Mk5's then you Mew, then perhaps a touch more possibly  :rolleyes:

Irrelevant, but thankyou for sharing that.
My Pleasure  :wink:

Your point for that remark is what?? . I havent got a clue what a mk1 or 2 is to service, and thats why i dont waste peoples time in your owned car section.

At the end of the day, its up to the O.P where he takes it.
All im saying is thats NOT VW service price with longlife oil.
Perhaps servicing ever 6000 miles is more appealing to him, therefor 2 services a year would be required for changing the oil AGAIN!

Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: stevengeelan on 05 August 2009, 20:13
I think this is the biggest response to a post I've had on here, quite a debate going on  :shocked:

It was Advantage VW in Stirling that done the service for me. (Closest one to me)

I think that the oil used was Quantum and VW502 (only had a quick look)

I will have a read at the receipt and see what they done and how much they charged for everything and let you all know.

Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: ub7rm on 05 August 2009, 20:45
I went into my dealer about a week before my service was due to get a litre of oil as it needed topping up.  My dealer used to supply Quantum gold whenever I went in for oil.  The guy went round the back and came out with a 5L tub.  Thinking he had misheard me I said it was only a litre I was looking for.  His reply was that I could have the 5L for free as they were no longer allowed to sell Quantum as it had been superseeded. 

Sure enough on the receipt for the service it showed that they had used Mobil 0W/30.  I know TT was maintaining some time ago that Mobil wasn't properly accredited to the VW standard but I doubt my stealer would be giving oil away to make way for stuff that wasn't VW approved.

Perhaps the OP's service was cheap as they used their stock of Quantum but didn't charge him for it?  Otherwise I'd be worried why they were using Quantum when other dealers are giving it away?
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 August 2009, 21:33
arh hense cheap price. 504 is the longlife oil and pretty much all mk5 owners will only use, i wouldnt use anything else in my Ed30.
Free oil is good , as long as it doesnt cause problems with the TFSI lump.
Personally , i would seek advise from someone that could explain the different grades and whether using 502 oil is suitable.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Rhyso on 06 August 2009, 08:30
Personally , i would seek advise from someone that could explain the different grades and whether using 502 oil is suitable.

or people could search the forum to find  This Thread  (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779)

 :nerd:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: ifti on 06 August 2009, 12:42
I have my first service booked in for next week.
I was quoted £80 (T&D).
I opted for the LL, which is £124.

Since the 3rd service is supposed to be the same as the first, Im pretty sure you've had a T&D service - not a LL service.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 06 August 2009, 15:36
Personally , i would seek advise from someone that could explain the different grades and whether using 502 oil is suitable.

or people could search the forum to find  This Thread  (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779)

 :nerd:
great link and Fully explained. :smiley: cheers Rhys

502 is a cheap alternative, but half the life of the 504 Longlife stuff.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Rhyso on 06 August 2009, 15:41
Personally , i would seek advise from someone that could explain the different grades and whether using 502 oil is suitable.

or people could search the forum to find  This Thread  (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779)

 :nerd:
great link and Fully explained. :smiley: cheers Rhys

Seems that oil does need to be changed and car service more regularly.

no worries but unless i'm mistaken that thread says 502 is fine for T&D servicing

One of the VW standards for conventional (non-LongLife) Time and Distance servicing for petrol engines is 502.00.  This is usually a fairly high spec fully synthetic oil, normally 5W40. 

Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 06 August 2009, 16:37
Yes the Longlife (more expensive stuff will last as long as 2 years instead of the old spec 502, which they say was used on Time and distance.

Im of time and distance, but i specified Longlife oil on my TD service , and its a better quality oil.

 :cool:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Rhyso on 06 August 2009, 19:29
Yes the Longlife (more expensive stuff will last as long as 2 years instead of the old spec 502, which they say was used on Time and distance.

Im of time and distance, but i specified Longlife oil on my TD service , and its a better quality oil.

 :cool:

urm they're different specs........and the 502 is still suitable for T&D servicing
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: JC on 06 August 2009, 19:32
its time


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 :smiley:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 06 August 2009, 19:44
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 :kiss:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: JC on 06 August 2009, 19:51
oh phil,

thats older than the mk2 i own as a project  :kiss:

think you must have missed it when you were on your " break "  :wink:

oh and

Keep on topic  chuffty :wink:

 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Saint Steve on 06 August 2009, 20:06
oh phil,

thats older than the mk2 i own as a project  :kiss:

think you must have missed it when you were on your " break "  :wink:
Arh yes, theres life outside this forum  :wink:
oh and

Keep on topic  chuffty :wink:

 :lipsrsealed:


Pot calling kettle Black
Must remember to keep to my word 
:wink:

Thanx  :smiley:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 August 2009, 23:29
£85!!, what did they do to it?? stand back and admire it FFS!!.

I think you might have missed the point - I don't think he went 3 years or 30k miles since his last serv.  I think what he is actually saying is that it is the 3rd service (done every year) and he is now at 30k miles.  So this makes him on T&D, and would therefore just be the 'oil change service' - which is just four items.  :wink: :smiley:

The Longlife oil is nearly £50 on its own!!, they must of used crap oil to get price to that.

Nah, trade price for bulk supplies of LL3 oils are around £3 per litre.  Stealer mark-up should mean that 'retail price' of bulk oil is prolly £6.50 to £7 per litre - so for the GTI sump, oil should be around £35.  :wink:

Brake fluid service is £62 on its own.  :shocked:

I think you may be getting slightly shafted darn sarf!  :wink:  VW usually state £45 to £49.95 for BFC.

Expect to Pay around £175-£225 (not including brake fluid change) for 3rd year service.

Nope, the third is identical to the year one 10k mile serv - so around the 100 notes all in.

4th year is the biggy

Yup, agreed. :afro:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 August 2009, 23:41
I think this is the biggest response to a post I've had on here, quite a debate going on  :shocked:

It was Advantage VW in Stirling that done the service for me. (Closest one to me)

I think that the oil used was Quantum and VW502 (only had a quick look)

 :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Two Three major fcuk ups.  Firstly, VW502.00 is NOT certified for FSI engines, 2nd-ly, VW502.00 is NO LONGER certified for use in official VAG workshops (and has been obsolete since December 2008).  Finally, Quantum oils are NOT authorised for use by official franchised workshops.  Quantum oils are ONLY certified for use by 'independent motor trade', and official franchised dealers MUST ONLY use oils supplied from premier oil companies (such as Castrol, Fuchs, Motul, Shell, etc).

Report the shady barstewards to Volkswagen Customer Services, and cc the leter to Volkswagen AG at Wolfsburg.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 August 2009, 23:43
I went into my dealer about a week before my service was due to get a litre of oil as it needed topping up.  My dealer used to supply Quantum gold whenever I went in for oil.  The guy went round the back and came out with a 5L tub.  Thinking he had misheard me I said it was only a litre I was looking for.  His reply was that I could have the 5L for free as they were no longer allowed to sell Quantum as it had been superseeded. 

Sure enough on the receipt for the service it showed that they had used Mobil 0W/30.  I know TT was maintaining some time ago that Mobil wasn't properly accredited to the VW standard but I doubt my stealer would be giving oil away to make way for stuff that wasn't VW approved.

Perhaps the OP's service was cheap as they used their stock of Quantum but didn't charge him for it?  Otherwise I'd be worried why they were using Quantum when other dealers are giving it away?

Are you sure that it wasn't Mobil ESP 5w30, because that is the only Mobil oil approved to LL standards?!
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 August 2009, 23:58
Personally , i would seek advise from someone that could explain the different grades and whether using 502 oil is suitable.

or people could search the forum to find  This Thread  (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779)

 :nerd:
great link and Fully explained. :smiley: cheers Rhys

Seems that oil does need to be changed and car service more regularly.

no worries but unless i'm mistaken that thread says 502 is fine for T&D servicing

One of the VW standards for conventional (non-LongLife) Time and Distance servicing for petrol engines is 502.00.  This is usually a fairly high spec fully synthetic oil, normally 5W40. 



You arn't mistaken - from the date that post was written!  :wink:

However, things have officially changed SINCE I wrote that thread.  From December 2008, 502.00 was no longer authorised for ANY servicing in accordance with official advice.  The ONLY spec of oil which can be used in ANY/ALL official franchised workshops (VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda) is just 504.00/507.00 - and this is for both LongLife (obviously  :tongue:), AND T&D services.

So to clarify, IRRESPECTIVE OF YOUR SERVICE REGIME - THE ONLY OIL TO BE USED IS LONGLIFE 3.   :nerd:

Hope this clarifies it.

BTW, ping me a PM next week to update that thread.  :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: ub7rm on 17 August 2009, 08:29
I went into my dealer about a week before my service was due to get a litre of oil as it needed topping up.  My dealer used to supply Quantum gold whenever I went in for oil.  The guy went round the back and came out with a 5L tub.  Thinking he had misheard me I said it was only a litre I was looking for.  His reply was that I could have the 5L for free as they were no longer allowed to sell Quantum as it had been superseeded. 

Sure enough on the receipt for the service it showed that they had used Mobil 0W/30.  I know TT was maintaining some time ago that Mobil wasn't properly accredited to the VW standard but I doubt my stealer would be giving oil away to make way for stuff that wasn't VW approved.

Perhaps the OP's service was cheap as they used their stock of Quantum but didn't charge him for it?  Otherwise I'd be worried why they were using Quantum when other dealers are giving it away?

Are you sure that it wasn't Mobil ESP 5w30, because that is the only Mobil oil approved to LL standards?!

The invoice states Mobil 0w30... :sad:

The Quantum Synta Gold I was given for free was to 502.00 / 505.00 standard.
Title: Re: 3 year (30000mile) service
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 17 August 2009, 22:16
I went into my dealer about a week before my service was due to get a litre of oil as it needed topping up.  My dealer used to supply Quantum gold whenever I went in for oil.  The guy went round the back and came out with a 5L tub.  Thinking he had misheard me I said it was only a litre I was looking for.  His reply was that I could have the 5L for free as they were no longer allowed to sell Quantum as it had been superseeded. 

Sure enough on the receipt for the service it showed that they had used Mobil 0W/30.  I know TT was maintaining some time ago that Mobil wasn't properly accredited to the VW standard but I doubt my stealer would be giving oil away to make way for stuff that wasn't VW approved.

Perhaps the OP's service was cheap as they used their stock of Quantum but didn't charge him for it?  Otherwise I'd be worried why they were using Quantum when other dealers are giving it away?

Are you sure that it wasn't Mobil ESP 5w30, because that is the only Mobil oil approved to LL standards?!

The invoice states Mobil 0w30... :sad:

Sheeeet - that is what a LongLife2 viscosity was.  Now it is still OK to use LL2 in the GTI (VW 503.00) - trouble is, Mobil NEVER had any LL2 approvals!!!!  :rolleyes:  I would personally get that drained out and refilled with some 'proper' stuff!  :wink:

The Quantum Synta Gold I was given for free was to 502.00 / 505.00 standard.

It will be fine in your lawnmower, or to oil the rust hinges on your shed door - GTI-wise, I think you know what I'd say!  :wink:  :evil: :evil: