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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: synnea on 28 July 2009, 15:25
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Hi All,
I saw my first MK6 GTI yesterday on the road and it looked really well. I have one issue though. The DRL sidelights. When the standard golf MK6 came out I remember thinking they looked terrible. They are a stupid yellow colour. Now as the GTI is the flagship model I hoped VW would have upgraded the DRLs to a nice crystal white colour, Audi style. In my opinion I think the yellow look of the DRLs ruins the look of the car on the move.
For those of you with a MK6 GTI, or for anyone who knows, can the DRL bulbs be changed, if so what type of light bulb are they? I know the sidelights in the MK5 are W5W but I assume these DRLs are different as they are more powerful. Is the only way to turn off the DRLs through VagCom? Also, are the DRLs in the MK6 the sidelight, ie on the light control in the car there is now just OFF, Auto and Dipped beam?
Sorry for all the questions but hopefully some can be answered. Thanks :smiley:
Edit: Ref below, the car I refer to seeing yesterday was on a GTI without xenons. I am yet to see a MK6 Golf of any variant with xenons so I am not sure how the DRLs on the xenon cars are....
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Can i also add does anyone have the Xenon's on their car, does the DRL work with them?? I can see there is a little LED light bitty at the bottom, is this the daytime running light on them?
Im picking mine up in 2 seeks so i guess i might have to wait till then to find out.
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Can i also add does anyone have the Xenon's on their car, does the DRL work with them?? I can see there is a little LED light bitty at the bottom, is this the daytime running light on them?
Im picking mine up in 2 seeks so i guess i might have to wait till then to find out.
I know you prolly just want to get your hands on it, But arnt u mad taking it now on an 09 plate?
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Can i also add does anyone have the Xenon's on their car, does the DRL work with them?? I can see there is a little LED light bitty at the bottom, is this the daytime running light on them?
Im picking mine up in 2 seeks so i guess i might have to wait till then to find out.
I know you prolly just want to get your hands on it, But arnt u mad taking it now on an 09 plate?
I cant wait! Its been 3 months now!! I have my own plate that i need to get transferred onto it though. When it comes to resale, either my dad or sis will take it off my hands so that fact its an 09 or 59 wont bother them. My dad and sis have just been battling it our for my current mkV that they can have in 2 weeks. My dad won that battle!! :grin:
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=121750.0
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=121750.0
Just the thing, thanks!
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Do they look different if you get the Xenon's then?
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Collected my car today and it has xenons the drls are on the outer parts of the xenons and look ok, they are definitely not yellow.
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Collected my car today and it has xenons the drls are on the outer parts of the xenons and look ok, they are definitely not yellow.
Are you able to take a pic of them with the daytime lights?? Infact if you have a spare couple of minutes you could always treat us with a full body shot? :rolleyes:
Well if you don't ask you don't get! :smiley:
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Well yeah but I am one of these poor buggers who is not totally computer literate and will need to find my way round photobucket and then posting pics on here, but also it is totally pissing it down at present.
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I agree the non-xenon DRLs look too yellow. Problem is, they use weird new H15 bulbs and nobody has made a bright white version yet :(
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Guys, it's an easy solution, change the sidelights to Philips Blue Vision and then drive around with the sidelights on instead. problem fixed.
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I don't think I've seen either the xenon or non-xenon DRL's yet.
However, I do see a lot of Mk6 Golf's driving around with their front light on, is that what we're talking about here? When I say front lights, it's the two inner lights closest to the grille. They do look quite yellow, so I guess these must be the DRL's?
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If I understand correctly, does this mean that the xenon headlamps use the outboard gas-discharge projector for the daytime running lamp? Which would mean the xenons are lit all the time - could someone with xenons please confirm?
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found a pic of xenons with what looks like DRLs on the sirly bit on the bottom. kinda hard to make out anything since lights in the daytime don't come out too well, but seems ok...
(http://www.ausmotive.com/images/VW-Mk6-Golf-GTI-08.jpg)
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here's a pic with the main xenon's on as well. imo the DRLs aren't completely white and look a tiny bit yellow.
(http://www.ausmotive.com/images/VW-Mk6-Golf-GTI-13.jpg)
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Not sure if everyone is aware of this but the DRLs can be activated/deactivated by using the headlamp lever.
Ignition off. Lights to 'O'. Left turn on indicator (down) while pulling back (flashing mainbeam), switch on ignition, hold for 4 seconds or so and you should here a beep. The DRLs are now off.
To reactivate is similar but you use Right turn on indicator (up) instead.
Not sure aboure xenons.
Mine are now off as they remind me too much of the old Jasper Carrott jokes about volvos and I know a few motorbike riders and cyclists who are really worried about the fact that all new cars may have DRLs by 20011/12.
There are various petitions against the introduction of DRLs in Europe.
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If I understand correctly, does this mean that the xenon headlamps use the outboard gas-discharge projector for the daytime running lamp? Which would mean the xenons are lit all the time - could someone with xenons please confirm?
yes the xenons are lit all the time but its not the main part of the light - the drl's are different to the full xenon lights. sorry for not being techy! i've only looked once though so may be wrong but that's what it looked like to me :laugh:
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So if you dont have xenons the only real solution is to either turn them off or to change the side light bulbs and drive with your side lights on??
If so I like the sound of the later... anyone know where I could get some of these bulbs and whats required to change them?
thx
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nah, just have the xenons on all day to blind certain forum members :cool:
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Not sure if everyone is aware of this but the DRLs can be activated/deactivated by using the headlamp lever.
Ignition off. Lights to 'O'. Left turn on indicator (down) while pulling back (flashing mainbeam), switch on ignition, hold for 4 seconds or so and you should here a beep. The DRLs are now off.
To reactivate is similar but you use Right turn on indicator (up) instead.
Not sure aboure xenons.
Mine are now off as they remind me too much of the old Jasper Carrott jokes about volvos and I know a few motorbike riders and cyclists who are really worried about the fact that all new cars may have DRLs by 20011/12.
There are various petitions against the introduction of DRLs in Europe.
No, do tell! (Jasper Carrott jokes, I mean.)
I'm in two minds about the DRLs, and I don't have xenons so I could do as you suggest.
I thought the comment about child safety, from the Norwegian perspective, was quite telling. Also, I cycle quite a lot and I used to be a motorcyclist, and I don't remember being concerned about anybody's DRLs. On the contrary, as motorcyclists, we were always trained to ride with our lights on all the time. I would have thought that anything that improved car visibility for cyclists or motorcyclists would be a good thing, not something to lobby against.
So what are the objections?
My main concern is that other drivers think I'm OTT pushy, especially if they just glance and think I'm either flashing the lights at them, or have switched them on deliberately as a get-out-of-my-way gesture. (This would of course not be a concern if everybody had them.)
I was flashed by another car a few days ago, primarily because I pulled out and overtook both him and the lorry he was following, because he hesitated so long I thought he'd decided not to overtake at all. I could be wrong, but I thought the DRLs had contributed to his annoyance.
I don't want to be seen as a thug on the road. Your mileage may vary.
Rolfe.
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yes the xenons are lit all the time but its not the main part of the light - the drl's are different to the full xenon lights. sorry for not being techy! i've only looked once though so may be wrong but that's what it looked like to me :laugh:
Thanks mate. Since I asked the question I've not seen another GTI with xenons at the dealer to check it out.
Rolfe, the main objections seem to be from the motorbike world who feel that riders with their lights on during the day for increased visibility won't stand out anymore as almost every vehicle will be similarly lit. I think DRL's are okay if they are LEDs like on the Audis, because it's obvious what it is. Even the little conventional ones on the Fiat 500 look okay. But I'm not so sure about using the high beam as they do on the Golf - might be misconstrued as the high beam being held on.
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For information.
http://www.dadrl.org.uk/
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Rolfe, the main objections seem to be from the motorbike world who feel that riders with their lights on during the day for increased visibility won't stand out anymore as almost every vehicle will be similarly lit.
I see, that does make sense. I'm not sure it's an entirely justified concern, and I doubt very much if it's compelling given that there are other evident advantages.
I think DRL's are okay if they are LEDs like on the Audis, because it's obvious what it is. Even the little conventional ones on the Fiat 500 look okay. But I'm not so sure about using the high beam as they do on the Golf - might be misconstrued as the high beam being held on.
That's my concern too. I like the concept in principle, but I don't like it being assumed that I'm "flashing" someone, or holding on my full beam to tell them to get out of my way.
Rolfe.
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but I don't like it being assumed that I'm "flashing" someone, or holding on my full beam to tell them to get out of my way.
Rolfe.
that's one of the main advantages, people get out of the way automatically now whereas they would have been needed to be flashed before :grin:
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Hooligan! :evil:
Rolfe.
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woo hoo :cool:
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For information.
http://www.dadrl.org.uk/
I have had a look at this anoraks website and totally disagree with his statistics. If you look at this website which displays statistics from Scandinavian countries it shows that DRL’s actually reduced accidents.
http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/DRLs/studies.htm
You may say that in Scandinavia it is more relevant to have DRL’s due to being closer to the artic circle, but in this country I would say that DRL’s are still a good safety feature, especially in winter. Having owned a SAAB for many year’s I am speaking from experience.
All the arguments against DRL’s seem to come from the USA, need I say any more.
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All the arguments against DRL’s seem to come from the USA, need I say any more.
Well, you know how the Yanks like to complain about anything they aren't given freedom of choice about! Seriously though, back in the 90's US car manufacturers often used the high beam running at reduced voltage. But they were too bright and of course aimed too high and did cause far too much glare. GM cars were the worst, I recall. Although the Golf uses the high beam unit as well, VW seem to have kept them from causing too much glare, perhaps by using the twin filament bulb - or perhaps because the EU regs have a maximum light output value. LED's are the way forward.
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I agree, LED's are the way forward and they do look quite smart on the Audi IMO.
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FYI the new Golf R has "proper" DRLs
(http://www.zcars.com.au/images/volkswagen-golf-r1.jpg)
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I saw a car with LED DRLs yesterday, in a sort of wave pattern, and I thought they were moderately horrible.
I could probably get used to them though.
Rolfe.
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DRL will be required by law on all new cars as of 2010 or something like that, cant remember the exact year.
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Interesting how the Frankfurt show car has blackened front Xennons compared to a normal GTi Xennons.....
See here pictures 1 and 2 http://www.motor-talk.de/bilder/vw-golf-vi-r20-g7655001/xenon-abgedunkelt-i203044349.html (http://www.motor-talk.de/bilder/vw-golf-vi-r20-g7655001/xenon-abgedunkelt-i203044349.html)
Dave
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^^ well spotted that!! Suppose its to give it a slightly meaner and more purposeful look!
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Do the rear lights operate when DLRs are on?
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Do the rear lights operate when DLRs are on?
No - the drl's are only at the front. They go off when you switch the f/r side lights on. Unless you are in Sweden - I think the rear lights come on too over there.
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Cars like the Prius :sick: should have a loud hailer as well as the DLRs.
To alert people to the Prius when silent running on batteries it could broadcast a peel of church bells.
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Why would DRL's cause accidents ?
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Interesting how the Frankfurt show car has blackened front Xennons compared to a normal GTi Xennons.....
They did this with the MK5 aswell. Look at MK5s lights and then look at a MK5 GTI lights and you can see the GTI has the black ones and the normal MK5 has silver ones. Same with the MK4 and the MK4 anni.
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Im confused by a couple of the posts on page 3 about DRL with the xenons on the GTI, is it simply the small little ~ type light below the main xenon thats on for DRL or are you saying the xenon is as well? Is that ~ light the DRL or side light? Im confused :undecided:
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(http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/Volkswagen/Golf/Volkswagen-Golf-119991124574391600x1060.jpg)
(http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/Volkswagen/Golf/Volkswagen-Golf-159995452721600x1060.jpg)
Note the two styles of Xennons, I guess the dark style will be the final ones as one the IAA car. But what is the DRL on normal GTi Xennons then?
Dave
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Resurrecting an old thread.
Has anyone with Xenons managed to turn the DRL's off?? I'm looking to do this asap so any advice would be good.
Davie
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DRLs can be activated/deactivated by using the headlamp lever.
Ignition off. Lights to 'O'. Left turn on indicator (down) while pulling back (flashing mainbeam), switch on ignition, hold for 4 seconds or so and you should here a beep. The DRLs are now off.
To reactivate is similar but you use Right turn on indicator (up) instead.
Its also in the manual
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DRLs can be activated/deactivated by using the headlamp lever.
Ignition off. Lights to 'O'. Left turn on indicator (down) while pulling back (flashing mainbeam), switch on ignition, hold for 4 seconds or so and you should here a beep. The DRLs are now off.
To reactivate is similar but you use Right turn on indicator (up) instead.
Its also in the manual
Hi snoopy. i saw that in the manual and on a search on here, but it doesn't seem to work. Just wondering if anyone had actually done it or not for xenons? Not sure if that makes a difference.
Cheers
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I switched them off on the demo car i had. :evil: I think thats was what i used. :undecided: Did you hear the beep and did you have the light switch in off?
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Yes, followed the instructions.
I'll give it another go tomorrow. car gets it's first coat of polish tomorrow also :smiley:
Cheers