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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: mafri on 16 July 2009, 21:59
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Got my car serviced yesterday (2nd service at £180) - rather confused that they didn't do the brake fluid or aircon service (apparently that's two years independent of mileage, ie Sept!), but was very impressed otherwise....
I've experienced a couple of problems over the past few months with the DSG:
1. When braking, the car seems to change down just slightly too late - just enough to make the engine struggle a tiny bit and create a slight tugging sensation.
2. After a long motorway stint, heavy traffic isn't always good to deal with - there's a bit of a rough take-up from coming off the brake to the accelerator, and from time to time the car kangaroos (slightly) as a result.
Reading earlier posts on this site, I wondered whether it was a mechatronic problem - but, given the amount of grief others seem to have experienced before the mechatronic controller was changed, I expected a few visits just to prove the point.
Not so - the stealer suggested I should go out with a master technician to show him the problem, (typically it wasn't easy to reproduce or as obvious with him sat there). Straight away, he said he could be the mechatronic unit, but he'd need to check version numbers, software, etc.
Anyway, long story short, with no pain whatsoever, the car will have its mechatronic controller replaced in a couple of weeks. I am pleased and relieved - hopefully this means that VW now recognise the problem and others should find the same!
Just thought I'd post in case others find it useful.... Does anyone know how much the replacement would be charged at? Looking at other sites, it suggests about £2k, in which case I'm very pleased to have the warranty! :smiley:
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Trouble is they love to replace them.
Mine jimps around a bit after a long motorway run.
It clunks on some roundabouts, they all do.
But a dealer who wants a bit of cash from VW will call it a fault.
Once the work is done your car will never be quite as good.
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I'm puzzeled as to why VW garage's dont try the more simple task of a box oil change before jumping onto the "mechatronic" band wagon.
Gearbox's and wet clutches love new oil. Its why I'm planning on getting my DSG oil changed on its 3rd service instead of the recomended 40k miles.
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And the a/c and brake fluid are seperate to the 'normal' service so isn't included in the price. :smiley:
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I've had exactly the same problem and felt compelled to take it into the stealers after reading this thread:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=95158.30
After calling the garage the guy answering the phone told me he had never heard of this fault, but to bring the car down and I could take it out with a technician. Made sure I took the car on a half hour drive - warm it up. soon as the techie got in the car and I pulled away he was thrown to the back of his seat :grin:
He said they would try a software upgrade but suspected it would need a new mechatronics unit - so it's booked in for next monday! Some tosh about they get damaged easily in the factory??
It can't be normal as its so uncomfortable to drive, and it's definately not a pilot error :rolleyes:
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What are the symptoms of this problem? Is it low speed jerkiness? Is it all the time or just occasionally?
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What are the symptoms of this problem? Is it low speed jerkiness? Is it all the time or just occasionally?
Just as Mafri said, after a long drive or half hour combined with start stop traffic the gearbox gets really jerky when pulling off or low speed in 1st gear. Almost as if you were driving a manual with absolutely no clutch control. Also when reversing the car almost gives up but when you are least expecting it fires you backwards.....
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Ive had the reverse problem since new, its "a feature" I'm told, I think by TT. you just have to take it easy in reverse.
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If you want brake fluid and air con service, as you need to agree in advance, they wont do it without asking you. However they should of offered you brake fluid at 2 years old, its usually an extra £60 on top of service cost. I would get it done, as your brakes are pretty important! As for air con, if it blows cold, dont bother, it shouldn't need doing at 2 years old.
Got my car serviced yesterday (2nd service at £180) - rather confused that they didn't do the brake fluid or aircon service (apparently that's two years independent of mileage, ie Sept!), but was very impressed otherwise....
I've experienced a couple of problems over the past few months with the DSG:
1. When braking, the car seems to change down just slightly too late - just enough to make the engine struggle a tiny bit and create a slight tugging sensation.
2. After a long motorway stint, heavy traffic isn't always good to deal with - there's a bit of a rough take-up from coming off the brake to the accelerator, and from time to time the car kangaroos (slightly) as a result.
Reading earlier posts on this site, I wondered whether it was a mechatronic problem - but, given the amount of grief others seem to have experienced before the mechatronic controller was changed, I expected a few visits just to prove the point.
Not so - the stealer suggested I should go out with a master technician to show him the problem, (typically it wasn't easy to reproduce or as obvious with him sat there). Straight away, he said he could be the mechatronic unit, but he'd need to check version numbers, software, etc.
Anyway, long story short, with no pain whatsoever, the car will have its mechatronic controller replaced in a couple of weeks. I am pleased and relieved - hopefully this means that VW now recognise the problem and others should find the same!
Just thought I'd post in case others find it useful.... Does anyone know how much the replacement would be charged at? Looking at other sites, it suggests about £2k, in which case I'm very pleased to have the warranty! :smiley:
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Ive had the reverse problem since new, its "a feature" I'm told, I think by TT. you just have to take it easy in reverse.
It only does the reversing thing after a long journey though, rest of the time when the car is running from cold and short journeys it reverses and pulls off smoothly just like a normal auto box would? This jump is especially severe in reverse and if your not careful could end up putting you through the front of your house :embarassed:
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Seriously, first things first, ask for the DSG gearbox oil to be changed under warranty.
If its after long journeys then theres a good chance the oil is becoming too thin.
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Trouble is they love to replace them.
Mine jimps around a bit after a long motorway run.
It clunks on some roundabouts, they all do.
But a dealer who wants a bit of cash from VW will call it a fault.
Once the work is done your car will never be quite as good.
Can I ask you to explain what you mean by this??? Ta!
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Trouble is they love to replace them.
Mine jimps around a bit after a long motorway run.
It clunks on some roundabouts, they all do.
But a dealer who wants a bit of cash from VW will call it a fault.
Once the work is done your car will never be quite as good.
Can I ask you to explain what you mean by this??? Ta!
They usually break or damage something else in the process!
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Hi Guys,
Sorry to hear you have been having problems with your DSG box. I have a Mk5 R32 to a DSG box and am terrified of the box breaking and costing me thousands now out of VW warranty.
Not sure if you guys are aware but VW of America have increased their customer DSG warranty to 10 years / 100,000 miles, a group of us have setup a new website to register DSG faults so we can approach VW/Audi UK about offering the same warranty extension. If this fails we can always go to watch dog ;)
The website we have set is www.DSGwoes.co.uk, your support would be really appreciated, if you can sign up and register any faults you have had.
Many thanks
Dave.
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Never buy a DSG box with a VW. Mine works fine but you should not buy one. I'll sell mine.
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Never buy a DSG box with a VW. Mine works fine but you should not buy one. I'll sell mine.
I am getting subtle messages that you're not feeling the DSG love at the moment.
Have a sausage roll and chill the fcuk out.