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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 13:58

Title: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 13:58
My diesel doesn't smoke - at all?!?! Not even when I bury my foot into the weave!?!? Is this a good thing or not :undecided:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 19 June 2009, 14:12
My diesel doesn't smoke - at all?!?! Not even when I bury my foot into the weave!?!? Is this a good thing or not :undecided:

depends which way you look at it

good in that it means your engine is performing at peak efficiency

bad in that clearly you need a remap  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 14:22
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bad in that clearly you need a remap 

LOL. Don't start me off on that again - Nick is sick of talking to me :laugh:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 June 2009, 14:28
Obviously you haven't got enough torque  :rolleyes: :evil:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 19 June 2009, 14:30
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bad in that clearly you need a remap 

LOL. Don't start me off on that again - Nick is sick of talking to me :laugh:

REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP

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Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 15:09
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REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP

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Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 19 June 2009, 15:12
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REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP REMAP

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Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 15:15
 :cry:

LOL. I can't afford for the clutch to sh*t out on me mate, which it would do when re-mapped - it's enevitable :evil:

If there was an AFFORDABLE clutch upgrade without making the clutch feel massively different I would.
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 June 2009, 15:28
I've done 20k since remapping my car  :wink:
Nick is doing a sachs/lux clutch upgrade for £425 fitted
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 15:38
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I've done 20k since remapping my car 

Hasn't your car been running rough???

Didn't Rhyso pay £8-900 for a Sachs clutch?!?!

£425 isn't too bad... :undecided:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: AlanD on 19 June 2009, 15:40
Yeah, he has issues, but nothing to do with the clutch.
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 15:42
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Yeah, he has issues, but nothing to do with the clutch.

Because of the remap, right..?
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: AlanD on 19 June 2009, 15:44
Yes an No.

Its just issues with the car that where already there. The remap has just made them worse as its putting that little bit more stress on the car. I get the impression Steve is a lazy bastard and just lives with it :D
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 15:46
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Yes an No.

Its just issues with the car that where already there. The remap has just made them worse as its putting that little bit more stress on the car. I get the impression Steve is a lazy fatherless son and just lives with it

 :grin:

I don't think I'll ever be convinced :undecided: The extra poke would be nice, but not at the expense of (possibly) a new clutch and more expensive insurance premium.
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 June 2009, 16:11
Yes an No.

Its just issues with the car that where already there. The remap has just made them worse as its putting that little bit more stress on the car. I get the impression Steve is a lazy fatherless son and just lives with it :D

Cheeky bugger  :grin:

I've had the N75 valve go, once that was fixed the intercooler pipes kept blowing off, this was down to worn lugs and the wrong clips.
2 new pipes and now its cured, sort of  :undecided:

Quote from: R-Tech Nick
Organic hybrid Performance Clutches, Sachs Friction Plate + LUX Uprated Pressure Plate rated 355lbft for the 130/150pd 1.9TDIs  £425 fitted

That doesn't include flywheel but seems a very good deal
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: AlanD on 19 June 2009, 16:11
All depends what you want for a car. Remapping yours, upgrading the clutch and keeping it healthy and serviced will turn it in a SERIOUS tool.
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 June 2009, 16:12
even with a boost fault this is what I got on the dyno

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/13022009184.jpg)

just dont ask to see the roller coaster graph  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 16:15
How much would the flywheel be just out of interest?

*must stop doing this to myself!
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 June 2009, 16:16
That is at the flywheel and wheel
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 16:18
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That is at the flywheel and wheel
:rolleyes: I meant the cost of the flywheel...
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 June 2009, 16:23
 :grin: :rolleyes:
Around £250 from GSF or £450+ from the dealers  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 16:25
So the best part of £700 then! Bargain :laugh: Think I'll pass and learn to live with the standard power.
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: AlanD on 19 June 2009, 16:34
(http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7925676363/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/03/29/loser.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 19 June 2009, 16:43
(http://www.stingo.co.za/images/blog/kma.jpg)
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: AlanD on 19 June 2009, 16:45
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 20 June 2009, 13:42
£468 for Sachs friction plate and pressure plate - good for 400lbs ft torque
£200 for new flywheel
£200 labour
£40 new release bearing

IMO experience get the most decent flywheel you can afford as mines shot already  :lipsrsealed:  or at least i think it is  :undecided:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: T_J_G on 20 June 2009, 16:39
Man up and get a remap. You're only around once.
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 20 June 2009, 22:19
Man up and get a remap. You're only around once.

spot on
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: gjroe78 on 22 June 2009, 10:19
£900 fook that  :shocked:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 22 June 2009, 12:20
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£900 fook that

That's what I said :grin:

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Man up and get a remap. You're only around once.

All I ever seem to read about is how amazing the car feels after a remap. Then, after a few months it's "I think my clutch has started to slip" or "my flywheel's buggered" or "I've got a boost leak somewhere", or "my crankshaft has melted"....it just doesn't seem worth it in the long run IMO. If the Golf was meant to be as is after a remap, it would've come out the showroom like it. Each to their own.
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 22 June 2009, 12:25
All I ever seem to read about is how amazing the car feels after a remap. Then, after a few months it's "I think my clutch has started to slip" or "my flywheel's buggered" or "I've got a boost leak somewhere", or "my crankshaft has melted"....it just doesn't seem worth it in the long run IMO. If the Golf was meant to be as is after a remap, it would've come out the showroom like it. Each to their own.

clutch will slip regardless of a remap or not - its a wear and tear item at the end of the day

camshaft is a known problem and happens on standard cars; Ridg hasn't had his car remapped and his camshaft melted  :sad:

boost leaks, again, can happen on standard cars
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Ben_1uk on 22 June 2009, 12:28
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clutch will slip regardless of a remap or not - its a wear and tear item at the end of the day

camshaft is a known problem and happens on standard cars; Ridg hasn't had his car remapped and his camshaft melted 

boost leaks, again, can happen on standard cars

All accelerated by a remap!
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 22 June 2009, 12:30
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clutch will slip regardless of a remap or not - its a wear and tear item at the end of the day

camshaft is a known problem and happens on standard cars; Ridg hasn't had his car remapped and his camshaft melted 

boost leaks, again, can happen on standard cars

All accelerated by a remap!

well yeah but even then these things can happen at any time at any mileage or they don't happen at all

you don't have to remap it but for what Nick charges you save a fair bit of cash to put towards the inevitable repairs  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: AlanD on 22 June 2009, 13:17
If the Golf was meant to be as is after a remap, it would've come out the showroom like it.

Not true, cars have the ECU they have for varies reasons to do with fuel octane levels in different countries and not wanting to tread on the toes of other models such as the S3 to name a few. A MK4 is more than capable of handling the extra grunt a remap gives it.

I cant see us talking you into it which is cool, its your car after all.

Still a loser :D :D lol ;)
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Rhyso on 22 June 2009, 13:49
lol @ Alan  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Smokeless Diesel
Post by: Kerrse on 22 June 2009, 20:24
I have had no problems with my clutch and have done about 5k since my remap not had any other problems apart from a hose blowing off a couple days later which had also happened before the remap. Put a new clip on it been fine ever since.