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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: DAVEMARX on 12 June 2009, 19:16
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at the moment ive got stock suspenstion on 17's but i want to drop it 40mm with 18's
will they fit or do i need the arches folded?
whats the widest wheel and tyre size i can fit and do i need spacers etc
cheers
dave
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while im here my interia has seen better days and i really need to change it..
While at the scrappy at the weekend i found a mk4 with really nice seat.
Do they fit the mk3 and if not hhow much work is involved to make them fit?
I was thinking of a steering wheel swap aswell with airbag from the same mk4.
are they a simple swap with the same electrics for the airbag??
dave
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Why the fook would you wanna put 18's on a Mk3? 16's are more than enough, 17's can look good.. but 18's? Seriously :huh:
No, Mk4 seats will not fit, unless you weld the correct mounts onto the floorpan iirc
Not sure how much work is involved fitting a Mk4 steering wheel but I think it is quite a tricky job, try and track one down from a 3.5 cabby :wink:
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18's will make the car drive shi7e!! and looks bad too!
seats would need mk3 subframes welding to them
mk4 will not fit easily (you'd need to modify the wiring quite a bit) but as said the mk3.5 (mk4 cabrio) wheel is a direct fit
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at the moment ive got stock suspenstion on 17's but i want to drop it 40mm with 18's
will they fit or do i need the arches folded?
whats the widest wheel and tyre size i can fit and do i need spacers etc
cheers
dave
Ewwww.... :sick:
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On 18's you will need 35 profile or even 30 if you want to go as wide as poss (215)
So being sensible "wildest" you can go is 215 wide tyres on 17x8 wheels.
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I struggled with 17"s why you want to go bigger is beyond me.
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18's will be too big for a mk3, pretty sure u would prob need arch work done as well
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when fitting big rims on a mk3 its all about width not height.
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A guy on ed38 has 7x18's but not lowered to be honest it looks daft.
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18's will make the car drive shi7e!! and looks bad too!
seats would need mk3 subframes welding to them
mk4 will not fit easily (you'd need to modify the wiring quite a bit) but as said the mk3.5 (mk4 cabrio) wheel is a direct fit
VR6Dan did it, he had to cut off a bit of the metal plate.
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A guy on ed38 has 7x18's but not lowered to be honest it looks daft.
Pfft, that's nowt. Go large and whack some 40's on there!
(http://www.anniemayhem.com/blog%20pics/WildCar.jpg)
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Whilst you're at it may as well go the whole hog.
(http://stupidlookingcars.freecarblogs.com/files/2009/03/golf_from_space.jpg)
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when i bought my first mk3 it came with 18's on 18/35/215 on a 40mm drop with dead shocks (call it 45/50mm)
handled crap and looked crap as the brakes were the size of milk bottle tops lmao
no arch mods needed though if you go for a proper size (mine was 215 tyre with no stretch, so whats that 8j?)...only on the front the front plastic inner arch covers were badly eaten from the tyres catching on full lock
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Whilst you're at it may as well go the whole hog.
(http://stupidlookingcars.freecarblogs.com/files/2009/03/golf_from_space.jpg)
bruv dats da lik init...propa wiked
in all hostly, i dont think there is a word in the english dictionary that will decribe how poop that looks...i only hope that mug taking the picture is taking it only to put it on barryboys lol
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Lets not get carryed away here but small rims on a mk3 look 'pants'
The 17's ive got on it now are lost in its arches and dont look big at all.
Im not going for a high performance feel here as the car is just a run around and an 8valve gti so its not exactly what you'ed call fast if i wanna go nuts on the tarmac i'll take a spin in my mk2.
im just gonna fit black 18's, 40mm drop with quads, rear red/clear/smoked lenses and a nice back box.
refurb the engine and fit new brakes , tidy up the interia and that will do.
thanks for the input
dave
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Lets not get carryed away here but small rims on a mk3 look 'pants'
The 17's ive got on it now are lost in its arches and dont look big at all.
Im not going for a high performance feel here as the car is just a run around and an 8valve gti so its not exactly what you'ed call fast if i wanna go nuts on the tarmac i'll take a spin in my mk2.
im just gonna fit black 18's, 40mm drop with quads, rear red/clear/smoked lenses and a nice back box.
refurb the engine and fit new brakes , tidy up the interia and that will do.
thanks for the input
dave
Your biggest problem is that 18â€s will not fit without a serious amount of work, I was running 17â€s and lowered and had issues with them rubbing the arches etc, why do you want to fit 18â€s being honest they will look silly plus you going to need 215/30/18’s which in turn is going to give you a car that will drive crap sorry to be blunt but it is going to tramline and bumpsteer like no tomorrow also the ride will be shocking.
I don’t think small rims look pants at the end of the day it is how a car drives and I preferred the way mine drove on 15†than the 17â€.
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I take it at the moment yours is standard height, if so lower 1st on the 17"s, this was mine and I cannot see why you would want bigger.
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/Vw%20Golf/2008_0601golfs0025.jpg)
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I take it at the moment yours is standard height, if so lower 1st on the 17"s, this was mine and I cannot see why you would want bigger.
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/Vw%20Golf/2008_0601golfs0025.jpg)
good point m8 yours looks alright, i like your style im going for a nice clean look like yours.
I wanted to fit 18's coz i want to paint and fit audi rs4's.
The car is black so i think the'll look pretty good.
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Rs4's are available in 17" as well.
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Tractor. Is your name giles?
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i think the 17's on a mk3 look the nuts out of all the wheel sizes to be honest....
the ride however is awful...
but heres a side on of mine...
17" rs4's...
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/golf4.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/golf5.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/Golf1.jpg)
hth :)
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Im pretty sure this mk3 is on 18s, and it looks sweet :cool:
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg243/robaustin026/005.jpg)
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Im pretty sure this mk3 is on 18s, and it looks sweet :cool:
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg243/robaustin026/005.jpg)
Yes it is, only issue is it is not what you would call driveable.
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Im sorry to do this.
But interia?
You kidding me? Gansta?
It wasn't untill you mentioned it second time round I realised what you meant....interior.
I'm rolling 17's on mine with standard suspension. I had a 45 profile tyre when the wheels were bought which scrubbed the sidewall in the rear arches.
Put 40's back on and the rubbing went away.
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(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr317/davero_photo/dave1011.jpg)
17's handled like a dog
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr317/davero_photo/dave1012.jpg)
16's handles perfect
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i think the 17's on a mk3 look the nuts out of all the wheel sizes to be honest....
the ride however is awful...
but heres a side on of mine...
17" rs4's...
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/golf4.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/golf5.jpg)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv134/robz88/Golf1.jpg)
hth :)
nice.. this is pretty much the look im going for. But to be fair the wheels still dont look huge and sit in the arches nicely.
robos pic on the other hand just looks fooking mean on 18's and i love the way the wheels sit under the arches. It may drive sh!te but like i said before low and slow is for me on this 1. Im after the look and not the feel of the car. Performance means fook all when all you got under the bonnet is an 8 valve.
As for the spelling... blame the weed :laugh:
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Im pretty sure this mk3 is on 18s, and it looks sweet :cool:
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg243/robaustin026/005.jpg)
Yes it is, only issue is it is not what you would call driveable.
I love the jetta front end and bumper side repeaters to...
Are the wings the same and is it just a case of slam panel and bonnet swap...
Dave
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from what i was told you need matching vento wings and bonnet too
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from what i was told you need matching vento wings and bonnet too
wings are the same..but the bonnet is needed and that one in the pic also has the deeper vento bumper
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i think the 17's on a mk3 look the nuts out of all the wheel sizes to be honest....
the ride however is awful...
but heres a side on of mine...
17" rs4's...
hth :)
nice.. this is pretty much the look im going for. But to be fair the wheels still dont look huge and sit in the arches nicely.
robos pic on the other hand just looks fooking mean on 18's and i love the way the wheels sit under the arches. It may drive sh!te but like i said before low and slow is for me on this 1. Im after the look and not the feel of the car. Performance means fook all when all you got under the bonnet is an 8 valve.
As for the spelling... blame the weed :laugh:
I am sorry but what is the point in building a car you cannot drive.
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(http://ihasahotdog.wordpress.com/files/2008/11/funny-dog-pictures-jackpot.jpg)
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what do you mean 'cant drive' wayne.
Its the same as if you had 16's on it. You get in turn the key and of you go like any other car.
i didnt know big wheels would stop the engine working and i would'nt beable to drive it....shame
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what do you mean 'cant drive' wayne.
Its the same as if you had 16's on it. You get in turn the key and of you go like any other car.
i didnt know big wheels would stop the engine working and i would'nt beable to drive it....shame
Right I might be wrong here but I like a car that handles as well as looking nice, lowering a car and fitting 18"s as per that photo is to me stupid, you will not be able to drive like you should with the floorpan dragging the deck and wheels beating hell out of the arches, you also said low and slow which is pointless to me, sorry to be harsh.
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the ride and handling on the mk3 with 18's suffer and make the car feel bad!! (I had 17's on an old mk3 which suffered from tramlining!! especially at higher speeds :shocked:)...and it would bang and crash around on uneven roads too!! and that was before it was proper low
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the ride and handling on the mk3 with 18's suffer and make the car feel bad!! (I had 17's on an old mk3 which suffered from tramlining!! especially at higher speeds :shocked:)...and it would bang and crash around on uneven roads too!! and that was before it was proper low
Spot on, it was one of the reasons I switched back to 15"s, the handling was miles better.
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Fook the handling its not a touring car. I use it to go to work and to the shops and things im not thrashing it down to the nurberg ring on the weekends...
I just want it to look cool and drive at normal speeds. Like i said before ive got a mk2 gti 'a proper driving car' if i feel the need to act like a 12 year old pretending to be lewis hamilton.
I didnt ask for an opinian, i asked if i needed the arches worked on for a 40mm drop on 18's.
thats all
has anyone got an answer?
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Fook the handling its not a touring car. I use it to go to work and to the shops and things im not thrashing it down to the nurberg ring on the weekends...
I just want it to look cool and drive at normal speeds. Like i said before ive got a mk2 gti 'a proper driving car' if i feel the need to act like a 12 year old pretending to be lewis hamilton.
I didnt ask for an opinian, i asked if i needed the arches worked on for a 40mm drop on 18's.
thats all
has anyone got an answer?
Yes as I said in a previous post your going to need serious work done to the arches, to run 17"s I had to bin the plastic arches plus cut the rear lips back, even then they still rubbed, 18"s are taller even with lower profile tyres so will be worse.
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cool nice 1 thats all i need to know....
cheers
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As for the spelling... blame the weed :laugh:
Im also going to blame you choice of rim size on the weed :huh: :lipsrsealed:
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Na the rim choice is all mine :cool:
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if you wanna put 18's on its your choice fella, but i dont like the way the mk3 drives on the 17's...
it really cant cope with big wheels on.... tramlining and bump steering like a twit...
but its your choice... my opinion is the 17's look best but it is just me!1 :)
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Na the rim choice is all mine :cool:
:grin: was only joking dude, whatever floats your boat
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just let him do it...he will realise how crap his car feels once hes had it for a while lol
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I know someone with a Mk2 on 18's :smiley:
Not my personal choice, but hey, everyones different. This guy wants to do something different so why not let him?
Everyone has warned him of the concequences that the handling will be pants but if he still decides to go ahead, its his choice.
Personally, I think that 16s are best suited. My car now that I have the correct size tyres (not ultra low profile) on there handles like poop and theyre 16's.
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Surely the suspension must be a massive playing factor on yours then, Dec?
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Dec if it handles crap..then it handles like a mk3 should :wink: :lipsrsealed:
(but tryes can make the mk3 handle very different...I had some falken's up front that were rated highly by blackcircles and it spun and slid everywhere...swapped for fulda's and it gripped and rode much much better!)
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Tbh, when you pimp your ride, with body mods, paint, rims, and slam it as low as possible. You dont want handling, you want to roll around looking sick.
As it wont handle, so whats the point in trying and binning it.
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Surely the suspension must be a massive playing factor on yours then, Dec?
My suspension is fine. I have FK Highsports and before changing the tyres, it was fine, so im not sure it would all of a sudden make such a huge difference.
Dec if it handles crap..then it handles like a mk3 should :wink: :lipsrsealed:
(but tryes can make the mk3 handle very different...I had some falken's up front that were rated highly by blackcircles and it spun and slid everywhere...swapped for fulda's and it gripped and rode much much better!)
Handled fine before :) Still handles well, just not quite the same. Grips like no tomorrow (4 on-the-limit tyres before), just doesnt feel quite as sturdy for some reason :huh:
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are the new tyres a bigger profile, and not stretched? If so its probably just a bit more bounce as there is actually room to move for the air. lol.
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Yer thats what I put it down to. Need an oxygen mask because my cars so high now...
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Why did you let them put those tyres on? And pay for it?
Could of just got some more stretched on at the place jake goes to in maldon surely?
And i thought you had some mk4 mot wheels from ur dads mate sorted?
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As said previously, lower your car on the 17's and then go from there.
You said you want it to be low and slow too - you can't really get that low on 18's!
My old Mk3 was lowered approximately 100-110mmm (compared to a standard height Mk3) on 17's and I think it looked pimp as fcuk.. handled quite well too!! But the sills and splitter still weren't low enough to the ground for my liking.
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/GCL731Y/Updates/S7001397.jpg)
On 15's, it was pretty much on the floor and I found going over speed bumps to be a complete nightmare cus I just beached it all the time, although it handled 100x better and I enjoyed it a lot more
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/GCL731Y/Updates/DSC00173.jpg)
And my new car on 16's is just perfect all round in my opinion
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/GCL731Y/10-06-2009/W1.jpg)
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Why did you let them put those tyres on? And pay for it?
Could of just got some more stretched on at the place jake goes to in maldon surely?
And i thought you had some mk4 mot wheels from ur dads mate sorted?
I was talking to him about it for ages. He said they wouldnt make too much difference (which 8mm isnt that much at the end of the day) and apparently they would still be stretched. They are slightly, but not at all compared to some/the old ones.
Didnt know where jake uses, and my tyres were all illegal so didnt have time to get them done elsewhere.
The Mk4 wheels were miles too big and didnt fit :laugh: :laugh:
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Why did you let them put those tyres on? And pay for it?
Could of just got some more stretched on at the place jake goes to in maldon surely?
And i thought you had some mk4 mot wheels from ur dads mate sorted?
I was talking to him about it for ages. He said they wouldnt make too much difference (which 8mm isnt that much at the end of the day) and apparently they would still be stretched. They are slightly, but not at all compared to some/the old ones.
Didnt know where jake uses, and my tyres were all illegal so didnt have time to get them done elsewhere.
The Mk4 wheels were miles too big and didnt fit :laugh: :laugh:
Why not change the tyres on the mk4 rims.
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Theyre just standard rubbish ones mate, but they had brand new tyres on already so thought they would do for a week or two till I sorted out some new wheels :(
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Thats a bit gay. TBH i wouldnt trust a garage that is law abiding, when it comes to something as dodgey as stretched tyres. lol.