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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: 993turbo on 08 June 2009, 22:45

Title: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 08 June 2009, 22:45

Where is the fuel pump on the G60? Its an intank pump I take it.

Only one pump?

:embarassed:

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: danny_p on 09 June 2009, 09:47

in tank lift pump under car pressure pump like all other injection mk2's

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 09:48

I have taken out the pump in the tank. Its a rather large beige plastic lump with the level sensor attached.

Can the pump (only) be changed, or do I need to change the whole plastic affair?

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 09:49

Quote from: danny_p on 09 June 2009, 09:47

in tank lift pump under car pressure pump like all other injection mk2's

If so, where is the pressure pump located? It is not one close to the fuel filter as one should expect....?

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 10:12

I've had a look under the car, and I can not find another pump. I simply follow the fuel lines (both feed and return) from the tank, to the fuel filter (which is a stand alone unit located in front of the right side rear wheel) and forward to the engine. No other pump in sight.  :embarassed:

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 10:30

Heres the pics of the Fuel pump unit:

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5167/09062009069.jpg)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5122/09062009070.jpg)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9897/09062009071.jpg)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5263/09062009072.jpg)

Please note the ''broken membranes'' on two of the pictures.......

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: Wayne on 09 June 2009, 10:50

The intank pump is also called a lift pump, the main pump is under the car.

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: rubjonny on 09 June 2009, 11:00

there is no under car pump on a G60, just the intank pump.

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 11:01

Where is it???

This is a pict of the area of the Fuel filter........

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5462/09062009073.jpg)

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/310/09062009074.jpg)

Any suggestions?

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: Wayne on 09 June 2009, 11:02

Quote from: rubjonny on 09 June 2009, 11:00

there is no under car pump on a G60, just the intank pump.

I stand corrected.

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 11:14

Once again I have looked under the car, and exept if there is a pump hidden on top of the tank, there is no other pump in this car........

I see that this pump assembly is the same as is used on newer VR6's and Passat G60.....

the part number on the pump assembly is: 191 919 061 BM

Does this part number make sense to anyone? Any info on this???

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: rubjonny on 09 June 2009, 11:15

yeah as I say, only the in-tank pump on a G60 :)
oh and fyi, if you want to get a new fuel pump, a VR6 MK3 one will work, normal GTI one wont as its not high enough pressure, G60/VR wants a 4bar, MK3 8v/16v GTI is 3bar.
part number is 1h0 919 651Q.  I'm not sure if the level sensor bit is the same so you might have to unclip and swap the fuel pumpy bit over :)

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: danny_p on 09 June 2009, 11:22

thats another vw spectial then.   

worked on g60's with under car pumps.  rally and g60 syncro had under car pumps well at least some of them did.

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 11:39

Quote from: danny_p on 09 June 2009, 11:22

thats another vw spectial then.   

worked on g60's with under car pumps.  rally and g60 syncro had under car pumps well at least some of them did.

Yeah, as it seems in the parts diagrams the rally and g60 syncro has under car pumps...

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 11:50

Under part number 1H0 919 651Q I find both 3 and 4 bar units? Is the G60 supposed to have a 4 bar unit? IIRC the FPR is 3.5 bar, which would mean is needs a pump bigger than the FPR..., or?

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: rubjonny on 09 June 2009, 12:22

etka specifically says the G60 pump is 4bar, so I'd go fo that. same as whats listed for the VR :)

looks like you used to be able to get the rubber bits seperate, but not any more :(

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 12:36

Thanks. Yeah, I see some ebay sellers are selling the pump as a 3 / 4 bar unit. I wanna be sure I get the right one.

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: danny_p on 09 June 2009, 12:45

if a pump is rated for 4 bar it will happily work on a 3 bar system.    the 4 bar bit means it can produce the required flow at 4 bar. 
3 bar pups will do 4 bar but they struggel like hell to make the pressure and required flow normaly hence don't last long.  the pressure of the system is actualy governd by the FPR on the end of the fuel rail

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 13:08

Quote from: danny_p on 09 June 2009, 12:45

if a pump is rated for 4 bar it will happily work on a 3 bar system.    the 4 bar bit means it can produce the required flow at 4 bar. 
3 bar pups will do 4 bar but they struggel like hell to make the pressure and required flow normaly hence don't last long.  the pressure of the system is actualy governd by the FPR on the end of the fuel rail

Sure, thanks. Hence, I wanna make sure I get the right unit.

Title: Re: G60 Fuel pump
Post by: 993turbo on 09 June 2009, 17:33

I've ordered a new pump.... @ the VW $tealer they wanted 370quid!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats more than a fuel pump for my Ferrari.  :sick:

I ordered one on ebay, new aftermarket, for 80 including shipping.

Fingers crossed for when it arrives :-)