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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: skem55 on 12 May 2009, 22:45

Title: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: skem55 on 12 May 2009, 22:45
hi just thought id throw this across to the forum and see wat is suggested

recently got the golf on the road, i havent managed to update the thread yet thou oops!

nehows the bloody hazard switch, will not work the indicators it just make the green led in the dash stay on constantly, ive tried another switch, changed the relay etc and checked wiring but still no joy

ne ideas ?

Stuart
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: Ben Lessani on 13 May 2009, 00:51
Mine was the same, the wire into the back of the switch was loose.

However, if its lit dimly when the hazards aren't on - then its because the main indicator fuse has blown. Go check that your indicators actually work on their own (the hazard switch is a seperate circuit).
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: skem55 on 13 May 2009, 19:25
normal indicators are fine, ive checked the wires too, have been told there is a seperate hazard relay thou? pre 89 gti 16v

stuart
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: andyg16v on 13 May 2009, 19:43
On my 90 spec Golf I had the same problem. Fixed the hazards with a new switch (stalk assembly) but also had a problem with the indicators. That needed a new fusebox  :sad:
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: skem55 on 13 May 2009, 20:27
but the indicators work find with the stalk is wat i dont get?

stuart
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 14 May 2009, 10:00
probably not the hazard relay as it also does the indicators, so its probably the hazard switch.
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: skem55 on 14 May 2009, 17:22
this is third ive tried and it aint the switch only thing i go for is wiring now?

stuart
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 14 May 2009, 17:32
ah sorry i missed the switch change part!
check you get 12v to pin 15 with ign on, and 12v to pin 30 at all times.  check for continuity between pin 31 and ground too.
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: jezza16v on 15 May 2009, 11:45
but the indicators work find with the stalk is wat i dont get?

stuart

OK, this isn't an answer but might throw some light on the problem....and I have not replaced anything yet.

My 8v has exactly the same sypmtoms as yours...........but........with ignition on.......turn on hazards.......nothing but green light in dash (indicators are all fine BTW). With hazard switch still on, turn on indicators (left or right) and the hazards come on with the red light in the switch??? turn off indicators and the hazards stay on fine. Kept doing it a few times and then the hazards worked OK off the switch by themselves??

With ignition off, turn hazard switch on = squat. But after doing the above a few times hazards now work fine with the ignition on or off (for the time being)..........WTF ?  :undecided: :huh:
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 15 May 2009, 13:22
thats an odd one, id go with a new hazard switch in your case :)
maybe check the red/yel wire to pin 30 for permanaent 12v.  I wonder if you have a previous alarm install thats playin silly buggers?
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: jezza16v on 15 May 2009, 14:27
thats an odd one, id go with a new hazard switch in your case :)
maybe check the red/yel wire to pin 30 for permanaent 12v.  I wonder if you have a previous alarm install thats playin silly buggers?

Could be, there's been at least two alarms installed before the current 'simba' system, the siren is still a 'sigma', prob from an old system, and there's a couple of those touch thingy's in the switch blanks which are no longer used. I'll check it out over the weekend and get back if I find anything 'strange'.
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 15 May 2009, 14:53
sounds like my gti when i got it, 3 immobilisor/alarm systems stuffed up under dash, non worked  :grin:
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: skem55 on 05 June 2009, 18:47
ok tried everything mentioned and we still got a issue?!?

gettin a bit confused as usual electrics are a strong point for me, im wondering as has been mentioned has someone mucked the wiring whilst doing the alarm previously but they were working wen i bought the car. so im discounted this as the problem?

stuart
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 08 June 2009, 08:36
my guess is they cut into the output from the hazard switch for the alarm, and something has gone wrong. follow all the wires from the hazard switch, and check fuse 4 and 19
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: jezza16v on 08 June 2009, 10:38
Moving on from my earlier reponse to this, it seems odd I know, but you say your car's only just back on the road.......How is your battery?
My battery recently let me down & was zero rated by the RAC, I've put a new battery in and the hazard problem has gone completely. The hazards didn't even work with the engine running, I'm guessing that the battery was pulling all the current from the alternator. The cars been sitting inthe garage for 2 weeks now and I just went out & checked it again without starting it and the hazards still work fine..........Just a thought?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: skem55 on 13 June 2009, 09:38
just a quick update, solved the problem for now! woo

stripped the dash down so i could trace all the cables, found the connection block which is located to the left of the steering column, had a quick fiddle (behave yourselfs) with the cables and hey presto, it works!

have noticed thou if the voltage drops below 11volts the hazards will not operate, im guessing as u said jezza that the battery is on way out.

stuart
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: jezza16v on 13 June 2009, 15:16

have noticed thou if the voltage drops below 11volts the hazards will not operate, im guessing as u said jezza that the battery is on way out.

stuart

Well done!

Not too clever then if you are stuck on the side of the road with a flat battery and the hazards won't work.  0/10. VW go to the bottom of the class on that one!   :undecided:
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: skem55 on 13 June 2009, 20:21

have noticed thou if the voltage drops below 11volts the hazards will not operate, im guessing as u said jezza that the battery is on way out.

stuart

Well done!

Not too clever then if you are stuck on the side of the road with a flat battery and the hazards won't work.  0/10. VW go to the bottom of the class on that one!   :undecided:

i no could you imagine that lol, i think ill be upping the voltage a bit lol
Title: Re: Hazard Switch Problem?
Post by: rubjonny on 15 June 2009, 08:57
takes a very flat battery for the voltage to drop that low, mine broke down a year ago and i had hazzards on for an hour no bother. was flat enough that car needed a jump to turn over on the starter, but hazzards worked away happily the whole time