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Title: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: mcchriswood on 11 May 2009, 21:57
Id just like too put my Golf 8v up against an average golf speed wise and see how its running.
So id like too basically know how fast it should do in each gear? Im not talking about top end speeds im thinking more off of the line.
Also it has done 133k miles. Ive never had an older car and im worried about letting it rev out to 6k. I could do it all day long with my punto gt and fiesta zetec-s but im a little worried about taking my GTI to the limit. Will it damage an old engine.
Thanks
Chris
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: maplesyrup on 11 May 2009, 22:26
Hi Chris,

Get it rolling road tuned and dyno tested by someone who knows what they're doing.

Power output and torque are alot more important and if its down on power they should be able to tell you why and perhaps help fix it.

If the engine is strong and running well, alot of golfs are a little up on power for being modified, you'll come away with a smile and you'll know where the engines peak power is and how hard you can push it.

Shouldn't cost much more than £80.

Jonny

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Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: cняis on 11 May 2009, 22:50
i shouldnt worry, my mk2 gti has nearly 250k on the clock and i often rag the crap blow the cobwebs out of it (when warm) and its fine  :smiley:
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: mcchriswood on 11 May 2009, 22:59
its my 3rd gear that feels most powerful. Previously in cars ive had it has seemed too be 2nd. Having said this my polo 16v was the same. Both excellent looked after examples aswell. Im sure its fine i just wanted too check what it should be doing in each gear :)
Thanks
Chris
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: danny_p on 12 May 2009, 00:12
gti  engines  are desinged to have an italian tune up daily,   some like mine need constant tuneing in this way 
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: tony_ack on 12 May 2009, 01:50
Mine has a bit of a 'kick' somewere high up the range (don't know where as my rev counter doesn't work, but I would guess it would be about 5000rpm as max power output is at 5300rpm). After this, it tends to get a bit flat, and you can feel you need to change up. You'll know when it happens  :smiley:

Happens at approx 40-50mph in second and 60-70mph in 3rd.

'Will it damage an old engine' will depend on what condition it's in, how well it's been maintained and how well it runs, amongst other things.
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: danny_p on 12 May 2009, 02:03
you can't really damage an 8 valve by reving it , the power falls off so you chane gear long before you get near the sort of rpms that will do damage 
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: OakeyDoak16v on 12 May 2009, 03:30
Dont be a fanny. 8v's should wheel spin in 3rd. My old 8v used to anyway and that had 120k on it.

Treat it nice and drive it hard, "Motto" should work every time.

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Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 12 May 2009, 07:13
Dont be a fanny. 8v's should wheel spin in 3rd. My old 8v used to anyway and that had 120k on it.
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is that with ling longs on in torrential rain? cos its not happening otherwise  :grin:
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: JC on 12 May 2009, 07:45
Ceats are good for 4th gear tyre spinning in the Wet  :grin:
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: Ben Lessani on 12 May 2009, 09:15
Dont be a fanny. 8v's should wheel spin in 3rd. My old 8v used to anyway and that had 120k on it.
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is that with ling longs on in torrential rain? cos its not happening otherwise  :grin:

+1 mine would wheel spin in scottish rain (strangely enough is the same as scottish summer), when I had my crappy craperton tyres on. Once the RainSports when on, I barely wheelspin in first ;)
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: OakeyDoak16v on 12 May 2009, 09:34
Dont be a fanny. 8v's should wheel spin in 3rd. My old 8v used to anyway and that had 120k on it.
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is that with ling longs on in torrential rain? cos its not happening otherwise  :grin:
Yes maybe slight exageration. I do miss that car though, it went like sh!t off a stick. :cool:
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: danny_p on 12 May 2009, 10:29
Dont be a fanny. 8v's should wheel spin in 3rd. My old 8v used to anyway and that had 120k on it.

Treat it nice and drive it hard, "Motto" should work every time.

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vag bottom ends are good for 7500 rpm, they'll do 8000 occasionally  on a std 8 v youve allready hit the limuter and theres no power there anyway the std ones i had were allways fastest whenb revved to 8 aand a bit before changeing.

never had an 8v spin the wheels up through 3rd without help thy'll normaly chrip decent tyers in 2nd in the dry or if youve sat there spiing them and overheated them you'll get 3rd but that help.   when the syncro had but prop i had a play on some ceats :)   just to see how good they wernt  proding the pedal just resulted in spinnage
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: kittie on 12 May 2009, 12:26
3rd is definately the gear to be in most of the time I find.

No wheel spin though lol!

I give mine italian tune ups and it's on 170k ish I think now.
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: Andy! on 12 May 2009, 14:35
Mines done 153k and gets the feck hammered out of it regularly, I never go past 5500 tho as it doesnt seem necessary. As for motorways and such, I've sat at 90 for 30+ miles with no issues at all.
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: Ben Lessani on 12 May 2009, 15:11
As for motorways and such, I've sat at 90 for 30+ miles with no issues at all.

I can agree with the above, usually do 100 miles at 90+ with no ill effects. The oil temp creeps a little towards 115, but some careful control of the blowers in the car trims it down ;)
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2009, 15:15
As for motorways and such, I've sat at 90 for 30+ miles with no issues at all.

I can agree with the above, usually do 100 miles at 90+ with no ill effects. The oil temp creeps a little towards 115, but some careful control of the blowers in the car trims it down ;)

Another agrreement here. I used to run up the M1 from London to Leeds and back every weekend in my old white one and would do most of it flat out for 2hrs with no issues.

nick
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: Ben Lessani on 12 May 2009, 15:16
London to Leeds in 2 hours, that's immense!

Best I've done is Manchester > Glasgow in 2hs 25mins ..... via aircraft of course
Title: Re: Speed : Just to give me an idea
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2009, 15:20
As for motorways and such, I've sat at 90 for 30+ miles with no issues at all.

I can agree with the above, usually do 100 miles at 90+ with no ill effects. The oil temp creeps a little towards 115, but some careful control of the blowers in the car trims it down ;)

Another agrreement here. I used to run up the M1 from London to Leeds and back every weekend in my old white one and would do most of it flat out for 2hrs with no issues.

nick

Just refering to the stretch of M1 from the M25 up to just north of huddersfield. It's about 160 miles so no that mental!

The actual journey was Reading to Wakefield but all in it took about 3 1/4 hours.

nick

Nick