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General => The garage => Topic started by: GTiHigh on 26 April 2009, 22:35
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Ok I've been doing alot of reseach on Remapping and the only options open to me are ' Bluefin or Revo ' sorry R-Tech I'm too far for u guys..
Any pros/cons between them ?
Bluefin at the moment ( for me ) seems to tick the correct boxes - I like the idea of returning to standard map if things go wrong down the line, and when I sell later on I can say it never been chipped/remapped :grin:
Before I go for it, I'll be doing, smooth airbox, pipercross panel filter and forge 007p so I can make to most of it...
Which one ? is one more likely to feck my flywheel/clutch over the other ?
Thanks lads
GTiHigh
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i think R-Tech have a contact up near you who would be able to map your car :wink:
as for which map will feck up your clutch - both will over a period of time; its enivitable and will mainly depend on your driving style
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Get R-Tech to do it, even if they have to come to you, they're cheaper as well
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Scottish Highland :laugh:
You can always pop down to star performance?
http://www.starperformance.co.uk/contact.htm
I have sent a few customers there way and all of them have been over the moon.
Or you can send your ECU to us for bench remap session.
Nick
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Cheers lads, thanks for that..
I'm still at the planing stage at the moment ( more like planing my finances lol )
So Ben, I take it you don't fancy a trip up over the border then :tongue: don't blame you bud..
I'll keep Star Performance in mind - bit on the expensive side though ( quality costs eh )
Thanks again..
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Scottish Highland :laugh:
You can always pop down to star performance?
http://www.starperformance.co.uk/contact.htm
I have sent a few customers there way and all of them have been over the moon.
Or you can send your ECU to us for bench remap session.
Nick
How much would it cost for bench session if i sent my ecu ? im also up in scotland and your a tad far away,
But you seem to have a good reputation and good service ;)
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Hello,
The Bench postal remaps work out at £200 inc rtn 24hr p&p.
ben
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how much would it be for r-tech to come to scotland and remap car?
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Hello,
We can only come to Scotland if there are group booking of a few cars at one time as we wouldhave to have a night out in a B&B due to the 12hours driving. :tongue:
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R-Tech, If you do get enough numbers to come up to Scotland, give me a shout ( hopefully have the cash then )... You lads have a good rep so I'd prefer one of you lot to map it....
On another note... Regarding high chance of clutch/flywheel fecking after remap ;
Been thinking this one over a bit, now my car is the 150bhp AGU, after a remap I'm looking at 185>190bhp max....
Here's the question is the clutch/fywheel on my AGU not the same as an early 180bhp GTi ?
If so then it should handle a remap without problems, not much difference between 180bhp and 185+.....
Or is it the torque that buggers it up ?
Thanks lads...
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R-Tech, If you do get enough numbers to come up to Scotland, give me a shout ( hopefully have the cash then )... You lads have a good rep so I'd prefer one of you lot to map it....
On another note... Regarding high chance of clutch/flywheel fecking after remap ;
Been thinking this one over a bit, now my car is the 150bhp AGU, after a remap I'm looking at 185>190bhp max....
Here's the question is the clutch/fywheel on my AGU not the same as an early 180bhp GTi ?
If so then it should handle a remap without problems, not much difference between 180bhp and 185+.....
Or is it the torque that buggers it up ?
Thanks lads...
Yeah, torque is the turning force of the flywheel.
TBH, if driven sensibly, there's no reason why it shouldn't have virtually the same clutch life (especially on stage 1 AGU).
I managed to get ~70k from my clutch - 40k of them remapped with a couple of track days thrown in. ;)
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p.s. 180 box is 6 speed which = different clutch. ;)
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Thanks for clearing that up for me Ivor, I've a better understanding now... appreciate your help.
Duh ! 180 has 6speed box, now why didn't I twig to that :rolleyes: must've had a blond moment ....
Thanks again bud,
Just done my airbox smoothing and pipercross panel filter in prep for remap woohooo...
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i just got my car remapped from star performance. its a big improvement and they had just reduced prices for 1.8t :smiley:
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Hi Mike, thanks for that... how did you find the improvement ? ( edited: re-read your post -BIG improvement duh....nice one m8 )
I've been thinking more about this - was going to buy the BlueFin off ebay then get it reprogrammed by Superchips, however I sent an email to Superchips for a price to reprogramme. Unfortunately they don't supply BlueFin remap for MK4 Golf, only MK5 and above.
Only got one option left really - Revo ( which I'm happy about, good name for themselves etc.. ) and their sort of close to me ( highland branch in Inverness )
Star performance sounds like their pretty sh!t hot ! hope your happy with the results :evil:
Did you install a Forge 007p first ? Ordered mine today off fleebay, should get the remap next month
Cheers bud
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Ok pretty pissed off now, I emailed Revo for a price as their website now only displays in euros.... reply - £349 + vat.... christ a few weeks ago it was only £290ish inc vat...
Aww well, not getting it done now ( for a while anyway )
Now I know everyone here recommends Rtech or Revo and I can understand why - but due to location ( and Revos price ) I'm kinda screwed but has anyone tried the KWP2000 of ebay - works with Golf 1.8t ME7.5 ( what's the ME7.5 mean ? )
Any thought ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KWP2000-Plus-KWP-2000-ECU-REMAP-Flasher-Tuning-Tool-UK_W0QQitemZ280307920904QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item280307920904&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
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Ok pretty pissed off now, I emailed Revo for a price as their website now only displays in euros.... reply - £349 + vat.... christ a few weeks ago it was only £290ish inc vat...
Aww well, not getting it done now ( for a while anyway )
Now I know everyone here recommends Rtech or Revo and I can understand why - but due to location ( and Revos price ) I'm kinda screwed but has anyone tried the KWP2000 of ebay - works with Golf 1.8t ME7.5 ( what's the ME7.5 mean ? )
Any thought ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KWP2000-Plus-KWP-2000-ECU-REMAP-Flasher-Tuning-Tool-UK_W0QQitemZ280307920904QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item280307920904&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Hello,
The tool on ebay will work with the AUM/AUQ ecus, only if you can get the special me7.5 software add on, but once you can read and write the ecu you will find it hard to get a good remap file sent you which will please you AND your car.
Your AGU will be running the M3.3 ecu which NO obd tool can read, the only way to read your ecu is to take the chip out. There are a handful of tools, like MPPS and SPI wizard which can remap your ecu via the OBD port using the L-line+12v protocol. Most companies will have to remove the chip to remap the ecu. I know, AMD, Custom Code Revo & R-Tech can remap the ecu via obd due to them having invested in the correct tools.
Nick
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Thanks for the info Nick, I apreciate it !
I'm also following J4LDOs thread re - remap via post :cool:
I'll have a think and PM u if I want to take it any further..
Thanks again Nick your a star
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If your woried about posting your ecu you could always PM RevoKev on this forum and explain your situation and see if you can twist his arm fo some discount in return for a review.. :wink:
If your thinking of a postal remap you will need to have your car checked out via vagcom before sending the ecu to us. I am sure there will be someone local to you will have vagcom they can lend you.
Nick
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GTI High
Buy the lead off ebay 12 quid with the software for Vag Com
Its simple to do, well check fault codes anyway
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GTI High
Buy the lead off ebay 12 quid with the software for Vag Com
Its simple to do, well check fault codes anyway
Plus you have the option to buy the full version software to work with ya ebay lead for around 90euro from http://www.ross-tech.com/ :wink:
Nick
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i found a big improvement with the remap. its sitting at 193BHP. they are doing remaps for £299 and it gets printed rolling road results. ive not done nothing else to engine yet :smiley:.
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Thanks for the input everyone..
I've got one of these off ebay and i've got no errors on the engine or anything else ( touch wood ! ) is it good enough for a pre remap check ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=280307920862#ebayphotohosting
Decisions decisions lol
Nick fyi I've sent a quick pm to RevoKev, thanks for that one m8 !
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Update,
Car now booked in for a Revo remap this Friday.. woohoo..
Sorted the price out, thanks RevoKev, £349 was for Drive by Wire, £299 for cable... Nice one...
I'll update when done and tested... also waiting for SPS1 switch ( just incase ;op )
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Update,
Car now booked in for a Revo remap this Friday.. woohoo..
Sorted the price out, thanks RevoKev, £349 was for Drive by Wire, £299 for cable... Nice one...
I'll update when done and tested... also waiting for SPS1 switch ( just incase ;op )
It will tranform your car m8!! let us know how you get on.
Nick
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R-Tech, If you do get enough numbers to come up to Scotland, give me a shout ( hopefully have the cash then )... You lads have a good rep so I'd prefer one of you lot to map it....
On another note... Regarding high chance of clutch/flywheel fecking after remap ;
Been thinking this one over a bit, now my car is the 150bhp AGU, after a remap I'm looking at 185>190bhp max....
Here's the question is the clutch/fywheel on my AGU not the same as an early 180bhp GTi ?
If so then it should handle a remap without problems, not much difference between 180bhp and 185+.....
Or is it the torque that buggers it up ?
Thanks lads...
The 180BHP Golfs had a 6 speed gear box and therefore a different clutch I think
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Now been Revo'd :evil:
Took the car in yestarday to the Revo agent in Inverness ( Duncan Sutherland Diagnostics ) - He done a full diagnostics and a few other checks to see if my car was fit for a remap - " YES, your car's spot on " was his reply...
Nice one ! - after the remap we took the car a run ( Duncan driving to start with, me in the passenger seat ) to make sure everything was ok. He was more than happy with the results and looked like he was enjoying the test... Then my turn, I only managed a short test run back to the garage due to the traffic but I could tell the difference..
After paying the money and having a good chat with Duncan ( He's a top guy ) it was time to travel home... :evil:
Fun fun fun - what a great drive home, you can really tell the difference in the car, really smooth and willing through all the gears....
Over all I'm not sure if it's as powerfull as I was expecting, but there is a huge difference so I'm happy with that... I'll wait a few days for the ECU to relearn then give it a good run again and check for further gains...
Anyway, THANK YOU to everyone in this forum for the help/advice.
Special thanks to - Nick at RTech, Revo Kev, J4LDO and Ivor
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Duncan Sutherland Diagnostics ( Revo agent )
No. 3 Seafield Road
Longman Industrial Estate
Inverness, scotland IV11SG
UK
Time to play Woohoo