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Title: best arb
Post by: bully85 on 13 April 2009, 23:54
going to be putin coilovers on my car next week so gona need a new arb is it just the front one i need to change?whats the best/cheapist?links thanks
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Sean_GT on 14 April 2009, 00:35
i got an FK one fitted, spot on and got it for £90 from ebay
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: bully85 on 14 April 2009, 10:30
would i only need the front so it doesnt rub?
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: T_J_G on 14 April 2009, 11:00
Yeah but then the handling will be terrible
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: spetzdude on 14 April 2009, 11:11
sorry to be a bit of a newb onm this, but are you talking about wheel spacers?
something like this.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FK-PCD-Adaptor-Wheel-Spacer-4-100-5-100-VW-BMW-SEAT_W0QQitemZ400041260428QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item400041260428&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Rhyso on 14 April 2009, 11:18
sorry to be a bit of a newb onm this, but are you talking about wheel spacers?
something like this.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FK-PCD-Adaptor-Wheel-Spacer-4-100-5-100-VW-BMW-SEAT_W0QQitemZ400041260428QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item400041260428&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

nope

wheel spacers make your wheels stick out

anti-roll bar helps reduce understeer to aid in cornering  :nerd:
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: spetzdude on 14 April 2009, 11:26
ah ha.

cheers for clearing that up with me  :smiley:

i take it you only realy need a ARB if ur dropping it more then 40mm?

and is that the same with spacers?
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Rhyso on 14 April 2009, 11:29
ah ha.

cheers for clearing that up with me  :smiley:

i take it you only realy need a ARB if ur dropping it more then 40mm?

and is that the same with spacers?

correct on the roll bar front - spaces i think you need an adjuster ring to clear the strut - not 100% sure

wheel spacers are generally used to give your wheels a bit more poke and give a wider stance to the car
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: spetzdude on 14 April 2009, 11:35
all making sence now, cheers for that ryso.
you can learn quite abit on this fourm, im addicted do it. every time i put my pc on im on the fourm strait away lol  :grin:
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: bully85 on 14 April 2009, 13:52
why would the handeling be crap?
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: richw911 on 14 April 2009, 13:58
why would the handeling be crap?

Because the rear makes the difference upgrading just the front will make the handling worse   :smiley:
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: bully85 on 14 April 2009, 14:12
y upgrade the front then? :undecided:or does it work only if you do front and rear?
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Rhyso on 14 April 2009, 14:13
y upgrade the front then? :undecided:or does it work only if you do front and rear?

because if you go lower than 40mm you'll end up hitting the driveshaft against the anti-roll bar and the knocking will do your head in after a while!!

another alternative is some adjustable droplinks
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: bully85 on 14 April 2009, 14:22
but if i had front and back arb's with sum powerflex bushes and droped 50mmish would it handel good then?
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Rhyso on 14 April 2009, 14:23
but if i had front and back arb's with sum powerflex bushes and droped 50mmish would it handel good then?

yep
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: bully85 on 14 April 2009, 14:29
thats the plan next week now my windows work again lol you no anywhere i can get a good pair at a fair price?
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: richw911 on 14 April 2009, 14:32
thats the plan next week now my windows work again lol you no anywhere i can get a good pair at a fair price?

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-4-c-2462_2474_2484.html

or balance motorsport  :smiley:
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: bully85 on 14 April 2009, 16:16
on that link wich ones would be for me 2000 1.8t
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: bobbarley on 14 April 2009, 16:33
why would the handeling be crap?

Because the rear makes the difference upgrading just the front will make the handling worse   :smiley:
Whilst this may be true, on normal roads, you really can't tell :P

I still haven't decided what to do about getting a rear ARB yet, so indecisive!!
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Steve_PD on 14 April 2009, 16:51
correct on the roll bar front - spaces i think you need an adjuster ring to clear the strut - not 100% sure

wheel spacers are generally used to give your wheels a bit more poke and give a wider stance to the car

With coilovers you may need them to clear the adjustment ring  :smiley:

why would the handeling be crap?

Because the rear makes the difference upgrading just the front will make the handling worse   :smiley:
Whilst this may be true, on normal roads, you really can't tell :P

I still haven't decided what to do about getting a rear ARB yet, so indecisive!!

You can tell the difference on a normal road  :wink:
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: jonnyturbo on 14 April 2009, 19:21
I am getting jom shocks n springs fitted saturday then gonna get w/line rear arb then take it from there
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 14 April 2009, 21:15
Going back to the original question-Peoples opinions on which arb's are best varies,but from what i've read the Eibach kit seems good value for money.

If you just want to drop your car and don't drive like a maniac any front arb will be fine,avoid the FK one though,it doesn't allow big drops.
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: jonnyturbo on 14 April 2009, 21:19
Hmm I thourt fk where ok?
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 14 April 2009, 21:25
My mate ran one for a week and it kept rubbing on his drive shaft,so he changed it for a whiteline bar.
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: mk4Martin on 14 April 2009, 23:00
I had front fk with a 60mm drop and still catches round corners
Title: Re: best arb
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 April 2009, 23:08
best bet is to pick a corner you know you get loads of understeer while trying to go round, fit the rear ARB then try the same corner. You will love the difference it makes