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Title: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 16:48
as you all know i have been sraying a few parts satin black on my mk4 gti t.

today i went out got the car jacked up took the rear wheels off and rear splitter off got it sprayed up lookin sweet as. and then it HAPPENED !!!!!  :angry:

pictures to come later ... cnt fu**in beleve it happened...............................


lets put it this way gna cost in the region of 400-500 to fix
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: old_n07 on 13 April 2009, 16:52
Widow maker strikes again by any chance?  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 16:52
Widow maker strikes again by any chance?  :lipsrsealed:

wots a widow maker???
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: old_n07 on 13 April 2009, 16:55
The sh!tty excuse for a jack that VW think is OK to supply with a car for changing a tyre, there have been many near death experiences with them

Neil
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 16:57
you got it in one , but no damage to me just my poor lil gti t
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Post by: jeynesey on 13 April 2009, 16:58
you got it in one , but no damage to me just my poor lil gti t

:cry:

Not good mate
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: Steve_PD on 13 April 2009, 16:58
Not good mate  :cry: always put axle stands under the car when ever you jack it up.
hope it dont cost to much top put right
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 17:00
well i am getin axel stands this week but its a week to late lol.  well it has done the rear quarter some damage etc. me and me mate recon about 400-500 to get sorted . im proper gutted felt sick when it went. still do a bit now   . me mate will post a few pics up lata of the damage.
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: Steve_PD on 13 April 2009, 17:02
you lucky its only the car which got hurt   :sad:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: old_n07 on 13 April 2009, 17:18
Axle stands and a trolley jack are an absolute must when working on the car :afro:

Hope it doesn't cost that much to put right.

Neil
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: jonnyturbo on 13 April 2009, 17:32
yup i bought a trolley jack as soon as i needed to be unda the car lol
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 17:48
i got a trolly jack but my bro had it at his, but he brang it round as soon as i told him i needed it to get the ass end of my car off the floor
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: jonnyturbo on 13 April 2009, 17:50
oh no dont sound good mate any pics yet
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Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 17:51
Gutted mate seen this so many times  :cry:
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Post by: jonnyturbo on 13 April 2009, 17:54
dosent sound like a good look rich lol
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Post by: bobbarley on 13 April 2009, 18:45
I must say, I've never seen it, or heard of anybody else this has happened too, just you, you lucky bugger  :undecided:  Gutting though!  Makes me glad I bought my axle stands and a proper jack as soon as I could!
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 18:49
I must say, I've never seen it, or heard of anybody else this has happened too

 :shocked: where have you been?
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 18:51
there will b a few pictures soon just waitin for me mate to get em uploaded etc .  ,   we both spent a few hours cleanin the cars after this and it so looks sh!t , it stands out a mile.  i was just getin happy with the looks etc and was happy with how the splitters wer comin up. just a big kick in the ass and a big knock back on all the plansi had
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Post by: bobbarley on 13 April 2009, 18:54
I must say, I've never seen it, or heard of anybody else this has happened too

 :shocked: where have you been?
Name one other person on the forum this happened to?  I've never seen anyone mention it before mate.
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 18:56
I must say, I've never seen it, or heard of anybody else this has happened too, just you, you lucky bugger  :undecided:  Gutting though!  Makes me glad I bought my axle stands and a proper jack as soon as I could!

thanx iam so lucky u tit!
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: old_n07 on 13 April 2009, 19:01
I must say, I've never seen it, or heard of anybody else this has happened too

:shocked: where have you been?
Name one other person on the forum this happened to?  I've never seen anyone mention it before mate.

I've had one go Bob, but the wheel was under the car so saved it hitting the floor - I was changing a flat at the roadside BTW, not at home.

Neil
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Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 19:01
I must say, I've never seen it, or heard of anybody else this has happened too

 :shocked: where have you been?
Name one other person on the forum this happened to?  I've never seen anyone mention it before mate.

Common knowledge isn't it?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=105042.0

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=105904.0

 
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Post by: BaV on 13 April 2009, 19:02
Feel sorry for you mate, looking at your profile the car looks sweet. Hope it doesnt cost you too much to sort.
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Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 19:04
Feel sorry for you mate, looking at your profile the car looks sweet. Hope it doesnt cost you too much to sort.

cheers , yeah i was just getin it to a stage were i was happy to look at it.
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 19:07
Feel sorry for you mate, looking at your profile the car looks sweet. Hope it doesnt cost you too much to sort.

cheers , yeah i was just getin it to a stage were i was happy to look at it.

Chin up at least you are ok. Might not cost as much as you think?

 Im sure you will have some good luck coming your way soon  :smiley:
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Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 19:09
hope so ....  :laugh:
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Post by: mikemk4gti on 13 April 2009, 19:10
 gutted for you mate :sad: Don't let it take your mind of that gti badge :grin:
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Post by: Jkctr on 13 April 2009, 19:10
The jack in a car is only ever supposed to be used for quick wheel changes! Who does work with their car using one  :shocked:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 19:12
gutted for you mate :sad: Don't let it take your mind of that gti badge :grin:


ill get it in post 2morrow m8
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 19:14
The jack in a car is only ever supposed to be used for quick wheel changes! Who does work with their car using one  :shocked:


Someone who doesn't know?
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 19:14
The jack in a car is only ever supposed to be used for quick wheel changes! Who does work with their car using one  :shocked:


Someone who doesn't know?

and that donut was me  :angry:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: Jkctr on 13 April 2009, 19:15
It says in every manual of every car i have ever owned!

Gutted for the guy and clearly he didnt do it on purpose but....
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 19:18
It says in every manual of every car i have ever owned!

Gutted for the guy and clearly he didnt do it on purpose but....

Not everyone reads the manual - anybody can make a mistake,

 Not everyone is perfect.........
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: Jkctr on 13 April 2009, 19:22
No need to be perfect, even my mum knows a jack that comes with the car is dangerous to use for too long!
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 19:24
No need to be perfect, even my mum knows a jack that comes with the car is dangerous to use for too long!

Only because you told her  :grin:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: Jkctr on 13 April 2009, 19:25
Im sure someone did but i didnt.

Even a trolley jack should not be used to hold the car up though, axle stands are a must!

I would never go under a car with just a jack, the guy is lucky he wasnt injured. £500 is not very much if you think about how bad it could have been!
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 19:27


Even a trolley jack should not be used to hold the car up though, axle stands are a must!

I would never go under a car with just a jack, the guy is lucky he wasnt injured. £500 is not very much if you think about how bad it could have been!

Very true  :smiley:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 19:29
500 is still alot to me, but yeah i ahve seen that it could of been so much worse. and axel stands are on order allready and a decent trolly jack also.   just hit me where it hurts at the wrong time
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: Jkctr on 13 April 2009, 19:30
Not saying £500 is not a lot of money mate, but your life is worth a lot more!
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 19:31
i know , just gutted  :cry:
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Post by: bobbarley on 13 April 2009, 19:34
Chin up, hopefully it won't be as bad as you think.  When the pictures are up the estimates on fixing it will come flooding in :P
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Post by: Grand Master Patch on 13 April 2009, 20:00
At least your not injured,ask Jake for a rough quote when you upload the pictures,he'll give you a fair price that you should pay.

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/37037.aspx
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:01
a few pics.........  :cry:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/alex__bates/laguna023.jpg)


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/alex__bates/laguna024.jpg)


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/alex__bates/laguna025.jpg)


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/alex__bates/laguna030.jpg)


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/alex__bates/laguna030.jpg)
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:02
iam goin to put the first pic 3rd pic up again but ill highlight the nits u mite nt be able to see in the pic
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 13 April 2009, 20:04
I must say, I've never seen it, or heard of anybody else this has happened too

 :shocked: where have you been?
Name one other person on the forum this happened to?  I've never seen anyone mention it before mate.


Me!!!  Thankfully I put the wheel under my sil, though!  Car was only up in the air for about 2 mins, as well.  (Ground was level).

VW should have been sued over these w/m's! :angry:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:09
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/alex__bates/laguna023-1.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/alex__bates/laguna025-1.jpg)
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: richw911 on 13 April 2009, 20:11
Didnt see that upper damage - will need new rear quarter do you think?  :undecided:
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Post by: golfgtidan on 13 April 2009, 20:12
ouch!!!!!  :cry:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:13
Didnt see that upper damage - will need new rear quarter do you think?  :undecided:

i hope not..........
ouch!!!!!  :cry:
i know wana cry lol
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 13 April 2009, 20:13
Looking at those pics,i'd be tempted to get some R32 skirts to cover it and just have the dent higher up knocked out :wink:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:15
Looking at those pics,i'd be tempted to get some R32 skirts to cover it and just have the dent higher up knocked out :wink:

i have got some cheap r32 skirts comein from ebay fiberglass . for 30 quid . but i know its there and thats doin me nut allready
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: mikemk4gti on 13 April 2009, 20:15
Looking at those pics,i'd be tempted to get some R32 skirts to cover it and just have the dent higher up knocked out :wink:

Not a bad idea!
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 13 April 2009, 20:21
Looking at those pics,i'd be tempted to get some R32 skirts to cover it and just have the dent higher up knocked out :wink:

i have got some cheap r32 skirts comein from ebay fiberglass . for 30 quid . but i know its there and thats doin me nut allready

You won't see it though....
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:23
if i was to do this i would have to get the hole sorted etc
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: sambo on 13 April 2009, 20:23
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/sambotc/IMGP1925.jpg)


Happened to me too a few years ago  :angry:

Would have though you could get most of that out with panel beating/ weld and pull method then a thin layer of filler to finish.

Infact if it was my car and you had access to a welder i'd ask a body shop if you can pull it out and they can finish it off.

Sam
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Steve_PD on 13 April 2009, 20:33
Thats crap mate.
wont need a new quarter, I had a massive dent on a old car and they repaired it IIRC it cost £600 and was about the size of a basketball.
Do you have protected no claims???
I must remember for future reference if I have a puncture must phone the RAC *DO NOT use the jack*  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 13 April 2009, 20:33
Have you asked Jake for a quote yet?
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Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:35
Thats crap mate.
wont need a new quarter, I had a massive dent on a old car and they repaired it IIRC it cost £600 and was about the size of a basketball.
Do you have protected no claims???
I must remember for future reference if I have a puncture must phone the RAC *DO NOT use the jack*  :lipsrsealed:
i dont have protected ncb, as i only have 5 years ncb but i was goin to get protected when i re-new in 3 months.

Have you asked Jake for a quote yet?
     
not as yet  but i will. where is he based tho as im right on south coast
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Steve_PD on 13 April 2009, 20:36
Thats crap mate.
wont need a new quarter, I had a massive dent on a old car and they repaired it IIRC it cost £600 and was about the size of a basketball.
Do you have protected no claims???
I must remember for future reference if I have a puncture must phone the RAC *DO NOT use the jack*  :lipsrsealed:
i dont have protected ncb, as i only have 5 years ncb but i was goin to get protected when i re-new in 3 months.

Have you asked Jake for a quote yet?
     
not as yet  but i will. where is he based tho as im right on south coast

go to a couple garages in the week, should be no more than £500

Jakes up in Manchester so no good for you  :sad:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:39
yeah i will be popin to a few garages durin the week to get a few prices....
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: sambo on 13 April 2009, 20:42
Isn't panelcare Manchester way? Surely a long way to got for a bodyshop?   :grin:

Sam
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 20:43
to far for me  :grin:
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Post by: sharpey on 13 April 2009, 20:44
that was the fun yest thing  i have seen in a wile.  i drove around the corner and see the car on the floor  one of the wheels to the side  at a angle under the car.

and alex wiv his hands on his head ha ha

gutted for you m8 but was funny for me at the time.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss19/sharpeyboy/golf%20gti%20r32%20replica/Photo001.jpg)

thats him trying to hide the car and stop me takeing the pics ha

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss19/sharpeyboy/golf%20gti%20r32%20replica/Photo002.jpg)

and a little of the damage

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss19/sharpeyboy/golf%20gti%20r32%20replica/Photo003.jpg)


ill get my mate to have a look and sort it as cheap as poss for u but.


Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 13 April 2009, 20:45
Isn't panelcare Manchester way? Surely a long way to got for a bodyshop?   :grin:

Sam
He'll give you a guide price as to what you should pay,not point getting ripped off by your local body shops if it's only £250 worth of damage :wink:
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Post by: tyler on 13 April 2009, 20:54
that looks nasty bud gutted for you :(
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Post by: Mew on 13 April 2009, 21:29
Why/how are both rear wheels off at the same time?
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 13 April 2009, 21:33
had it up to up clip rear splitter and needed wheels off to un srew the srews holdin it on from the sides.   i f**kd up big time
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 13 April 2009, 22:19
Ah, no! :(  Next time use a small, 1/4" drive ratchet with a 1/4" socket & put the torx bit in that, instead - No need to take wheels off, then. ;)
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: BaV on 13 April 2009, 22:39
did the jack actually collapse? Or did it topple over?
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Post by: sharpey on 13 April 2009, 22:53
it was one of  those scisor jacks the threaded part that goes through the middle bent and gave way which caused the other little wind up jack to topple over so u could say both lol :laugh:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 14 April 2009, 09:31
thats unlucky mate  :cry: same happened to me before xmas except mine moved towards me at the other side of the car before it wedged into the sill  :cry:  :shocked: made me move very quickly and after that i went out and got a trolley jack and now have axle stands to  :grin: i learnt the hard way  :lipsrsealed: tbh i dont even jack the car up with it when i'm at home i use a trolley jack although mines not as bad as yours i touched mine in with some spare paint i have for a temporary measure but having read the post i see its been mentioned about R32 skirts  :smiley: that was the thought i had at the weekend  :smiley: :smiley: as it will cover the sill damage and the money it would cost to repair my sill i can put toward pait/skirts :afro: so could work out ok hope you get sorted mate  :wink:
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Post by: 1.6mk4GOLF16v on 14 April 2009, 12:10
so where are the recomended points to jack up the car?

good thing i got AA cover  :smiley:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: Dubbz on 14 April 2009, 15:49
Gutted for ya. :sad: but its just one of them things mate, i've seen a tractor fall off when the jack gave way, that did some damage to the fitter working on it  :shocked:
You'd still need to use the w/m if you've lowered ya car. My trolly jack wont go under till its been jacked up a bit.
Best of luck on the bodywork mate. :afro:
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: gjroe78 on 14 April 2009, 15:52
Thats grim mate  :sad: looks like a small job yet again leads to a BIG job
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 14 April 2009, 16:55
iam goin to get the hole in the sill sorted and cover it with a r32 skirt at the mo as i dont have the cash to get it all sorted etc. ill just have to bare the upper sorta dent  for a while untill i can get some wedge together and get it all sorted and the rear quarter sprayed.   

also axel stands and a new trolly jack on way this week
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: jonnyturbo on 14 April 2009, 17:06

Just seen the pics alex looks bad sorry to see it like that mate
Title: Re: MAJOR F**K UP 2DAY....(with pics)
Post by: ALEXS1.8T on 14 April 2009, 17:08

Just seen the pics alex looks bad sorry to see it like that mate


cheers, i have worn off the stage of feelin so gutted about it and just wana get it hiden from view for the time being, iam just happy i was not under there.  think it might of hurt a bit lol