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Title: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 09 March 2009, 17:15: Hi Guys,

Its been a while :P

My car needs new brakes so I thought it was time to upgrade them.

I want 312mm with red callipers.

Can someone please assist me with a shopping list please?

I just have the standard brakes at the mo and my mechanic said he would fit the new ones if I supplied everything.

Thanks in advance.

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: the_stink on 09 March 2009, 17:18: think there is some infoon that in the maintenance section mate :)
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 09 March 2009, 17:26: Thanks I did find this http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87778.0

But A) got confused and B) wondered if there were places like eBay to get the kit from (or is it not worth it) as the link was dead.

What would be ideal is:
1) Item 1 - Link - Price
2) Item 2 - Link - Price

It might sound lazy i just don't know what i need and want to get it right first time :)

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: sambo on 09 March 2009, 17:36: You need differant caliper carriers and a set of 312mm disc's.

I found it easier (although more expensive) to buy new calipers too. This way i could paint them off the car and then change them all over at once, rather than mess around cleaning up and painting the existing calipers on the car. There normally grotty and you can't get as good a finish. Had to do this with my rear's and it was a PITA.

I sprayed my front's with plastikote red.

HTH Sam
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: redevo1 on 09 March 2009, 17:40: I managed to get a set off disks for £25 off ebay, and some carriers for £70 so very very cheap upgrade. If you shop around for the 312mm it is a good set up, as the GTI not overly heavy in 1.8t mode 1236kg off the top off my head.
Not been left wanting so far in the brake department since the upgrade. :smiley:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 10 March 2009, 09:36: So for my car i need:

Brake Pads
312mm Disks
Callipers (Would like red ones)
Carriers?

Am I missing anything and anyone got any links to assist?

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: ryanr32 on 10 March 2009, 09:44: you dont really need the calipers you can easily clean the old ones!
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 10 March 2009, 10:11: Quote from: ryanr32 on 10 March 2009, 09:44
you dont really need the calipers you can easily clean the old ones!

I'd like pretty new red ones :P

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Len on 10 March 2009, 10:24: have a look at this mate it may be of help. Check the link posted by Paul.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=94314.0
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 10 March 2009, 14:41: Quote from: Len on 10 March 2009, 10:24
have a look at this mate it may be of help. Check the link posted by Paul.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=94314.0

Thanks - still no links on where to buy all the bits I need :(

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Steve_PD on 10 March 2009, 17:05: have a look on ebay or your local breakers.
Just paint your calipers red and save hundreds :afro:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: anson on 10 March 2009, 17:49: Got my carriers from vw speed about 155pounds used own calipers, disc 70, pads 40 ,easy to fit yorself I find it hard changing a plug but so much info on this ,cant stress how easy it is. good luck
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: ABOO on 10 March 2009, 18:11: Don't know if people are aware but the TT shop sell new carriers, about £140 each :shocked:

Also sell pairs of second-hand ones when they have them for £100. I know thats still expensive, but if struggling to lay your hands on some. Come back Vag-parts...
http://www.thettshop.co.uk/
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 11 March 2009, 17:21: Thanks so far I have

Disks & Pad's = £100
Carriers = £100 odd
Red Callipers = ?? Need Help

Anything else I need to add to the shopping list?

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: bobbarley on 11 March 2009, 17:22: Quote from: THiNK on 11 March 2009, 17:21
Thanks so far I have

Disks & Pad's = £100
Carriers = £100 odd
Red Callipers = ?? Need Help

Anything else I need to add to the shopping list?

Thanks,

CS
You can use your old callipers.
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: ryanr32 on 11 March 2009, 17:42: just clean your old calipers and spray them red! easy! :grin:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 12 March 2009, 08:11: OK call me crazy - if i wanted red ones where can i source them to fit the brakes?

Do I need spacers or anything ?

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 12 March 2009, 13:29: Ok I found the disks/Pads : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220254678119 Any thoughts?

Still trying to source:

Carriers.
Red Callipers.

Any thing else?

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Rhyso on 12 March 2009, 13:35: silly question but you do have 16inch wheels fitted don't you?
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 12 March 2009, 14:46: Quote from: Rhyso on 12 March 2009, 13:35
silly question but you do have 16inch wheels fitted don't you?

Standard as far as I can tell - why ?

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Rhyso on 12 March 2009, 15:16: Quote from: THiNK on 12 March 2009, 14:46
Quote from: Rhyso on 12 March 2009, 13:35
silly question but you do have 16inch wheels fitted don't you?

Standard as far as I can tell - why ?

CS

cos the 312's don't fit under 15inch wheels :tongue:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 12 March 2009, 15:23: Quote from: Rhyso on 12 March 2009, 15:16
cos the 312's don't fit under 15inch wheels :tongue:

Ah well that's ok as i have my eye on these : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-audi-vw-new-r32-alloy-wheels-fits-golf-a3-a4-skoda_W0QQitemZ300270463970QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET?hash=item300270463970&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1 but dont tell the misses ;)

Will the brake upgrade be OK till I get these then with my standard wheel's?

Cheers,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 March 2009, 20:14: As long as they're 16" & not the BBS RX II, then they should be fine. ;)
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 13 March 2009, 10:08: OK slowly getting there.

I found these today - http://tinyurl.com/bke88l

Are they ok?

So that's carriers and callipers and pads and disks on my other post.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: rheady on 13 March 2009, 11:40: Looking at the advert you still have to pay extra for painting. Why not just take the time to take yours off and clean and paint them yourself, as Steve_PD suggested. If you have the time you could hang them from the springs with wire amd paint them or spray them so there is no strain on the brake pipes
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 13 March 2009, 11:48: Thanks - I'm not a painter nor do I have the patience/time - Lazy I know, but I'd rather pay a bit extra for someone else to do it :)

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 15 March 2009, 14:04: Hi - Hope someone can assist.

I have found the pads, disks, calipers and carriers. Before i think that's all I need - what am I missing and what do i need to budget for?

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: richw911 on 15 March 2009, 16:55: Quote from: THiNK on 15 March 2009, 14:04
Hi - Hope someone can assist.

I have found the pads, disks, calipers and carriers. Before i think that's all I need - what am I missing and what do i need to budget for?

Thanks,

CS

Thats all you need (Dont need calipers but as you have them :smiley:)
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: rheady on 15 March 2009, 18:12: If you're changing the calipers don't forget brake fluid
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 15 March 2009, 18:54: Cool so no spacers or anything - right them - make it £230 all in (+ fitting and fluid etc)

Thanks guys,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: ce0u1162 on 16 March 2009, 16:47: have you tried www.uk-mkivs.net a few full sets usually pop up on there
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 07 May 2009, 15:30: Hi,

OK, will the brake upgrade fit on my standard rim/tyre set up if I buy the following:

1) VW/Audi 312mm front Brake calipers and carriers
2) VW/AUDI TT Mintex Front Brake Discs & Pads

Do I need anything else?

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ridg on 07 May 2009, 15:48: you only need the carriers, and not the callipers as you're already on the 288mm

what rims do you have?

the upgrade fits fine behind monty IIs, not sure about monty Is though
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Dubbz on 07 May 2009, 15:50: Any help? :undecided:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=330326062714
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 07 May 2009, 16:06: Quote from: Ridg on 07 May 2009, 15:48
you only need the carriers, and not the callipers as you're already on the 288mm

what rims do you have?

the upgrade fits fine behind monty IIs, not sure about monty Is though

Thanks and no idea what Rims are on there - they look like this :

(http://www.vwvortex.com/gallery/albums//Volkswagen/Golf%20-%20GTI%20-%20Rabbit/Golf%20IV/GTI%20-%20USA/15.jpg)

Cheers,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: 16VWarby on 07 May 2009, 16:07: Quote from: THiNK on 13 March 2009, 11:48
Thanks - I'm not a painter nor do I have the patience/time - Lazy I know, but I'd rather pay a bit extra for someone else to do it :)

CS

Gawd i thought i was lazy, me and my mate did all 4 of mine in 6 hours, thats with 2 trips to maccy d's and him gettin arrested for attempted murder (mistaken identity its all good now).

I even left them on, used a high temp white spray then Etech brake/engine laquer.

I think it looks fine when you look at em. (just dont look behind them, i didnt do that far :smiley:

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn273/16VWarby/DSC00498.jpg)

Did mates skybird in about 10 hours but that included 4 trips to maccy d's, droppin it on the floor twice, chattin up exactly 3.568 birds and consuming 8litres of irn bru :grin:

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn273/16VWarby/skyline_004-1.jpg)

Its not a big job. :grin:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ridg on 07 May 2009, 16:17: Quote from: THiNK on 07 May 2009, 16:06
Quote from: Ridg on 07 May 2009, 15:48
you only need the carriers, and not the callipers as you're already on the 288mm

what rims do you have?

the upgrade fits fine behind monty IIs, not sure about monty Is though

Thanks and no idea what Rims are on there - they look like this :

(http://www.vwvortex.com/gallery/albums//Volkswagen/Golf%20-%20GTI%20-%20Rabbit/Golf%20IV/GTI%20-%20USA/15.jpg)

Cheers,

CS

monty IIs will fit fine!
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Rhyso on 07 May 2009, 16:28: just :tongue:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Photo-0089.jpg)
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 07 May 2009, 16:38: Quote from: Rhyso on 07 May 2009, 16:28
just :tongue:

Thanks

Just the MOT today put an advisory on the front pads/disks so now is a good time to sort it out I thought!

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 07 May 2009, 16:52: Will I need new brake hoses?

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: danny boy on 07 May 2009, 17:40: found these mate if you havnt sortted your brakes out yet

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Audi-312mm-front-Brake-calipers-and-carriers_W0QQitemZ320358588178QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item320358588178&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Audi-312mm-front-Brake-calipers-and-carriers_W0QQitemZ320358588178QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item320358588178&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 07 May 2009, 20:31: Quote from: danny boy on 07 May 2009, 17:40
found these mate if you havnt sortted your breaks out yet

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Audi-312mm-front-Brake-calipers-and-carriers_W0QQitemZ320358588178QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item320358588178&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Audi-312mm-front-Brake-calipers-and-carriers_W0QQitemZ320358588178QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item320358588178&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

Thanks - so i got pads, disks, calipers and carriers.

Anything else before I purchase and get my mechanic round?

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Rhyso on 07 May 2009, 20:36: have you already bought the calipers?

you only need the carriers - sell the calipers on
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 07 May 2009, 21:27: Quote from: Rhyso on 07 May 2009, 20:36
have you already bought the calipers?

you only need the carriers - sell the calipers on

Its the ebay link above that i'll be getting :)

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Steve_PD on 07 May 2009, 21:35: to lazy to paint the caliper :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 08 May 2009, 18:19: Quote from: Steve_PD on 07 May 2009, 21:35
to lazy to paint the caliper :rolleyes:

Shocking eh ;)

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: kuvalee on 11 May 2009, 18:33: Right lads I want this upgrade two but can I just use my original calipers? And just put new disks on?
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Steve_PD on 11 May 2009, 18:34: All you need is some 312mm caliper carriers and 312mm discs :wink:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: richw911 on 11 May 2009, 18:41: Quote from: kuvalee on 11 May 2009, 18:33
Right lads I want this upgrade two but can I just use my original calipers? And just put new disks on?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87778.0

Try looking int the maintenance section its really helpful.............
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Rhyso on 11 May 2009, 18:42: Quote from: richw911 on 11 May 2009, 18:41
Quote from: kuvalee on 11 May 2009, 18:33
Right lads I want this upgrade two but can I just use my original calipers? And just put new disks on?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87778.0

Try looking int the maintenance section its really helpful.............

what section is this you speak of Rich? :huh: i've never heard of it :undecided:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Steve_PD on 11 May 2009, 18:44: I though that was Rich's section, he's the only person who posts in it :huh:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: kuvalee on 11 May 2009, 18:49: cheers mate nice and easy I'll get some ordered !!
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Wazzzer on 11 May 2009, 19:34: you need 312mm pads too
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ridg on 11 May 2009, 20:11: Quote from: Wazzzer on 11 May 2009, 19:34
you need 312mm pads too

pads are the same size, but you would need discs at which point you need new pads
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Wazzzer on 11 May 2009, 21:40: pads covered the whole of the 312mm disc when I got them, can't see them being the same size or they'd clash with the centre...

edit: you may be right looking at this

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/DSCF0668.jpg)
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ridg on 11 May 2009, 22:42: Quote from: Wazzzer on 11 May 2009, 21:40
edit: you may be right looking at this

:rolleyes:

same breaking 'surface' just further away from the centre of the disc.
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Wazzzer on 11 May 2009, 23:13: i will happily admit defeat on that one
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: ashw831 on 12 May 2009, 09:01: Just had a look in the maintenance sect.... it says that the 2.0 8v needs the hub changing & the 1.8 turbo doesnt.... what about the 1.8 20v n/a? does any one know?
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Rhyso on 12 May 2009, 09:16: Quote from: ashw831 on 12 May 2009, 09:01
Just had a look in the maintenance sect.... it says that the 2.0 8v needs the hub changing & the 1.8 turbo doesnt.... what about the 1.8 20v n/a? does any one know?

i believe you don't need to change the hubs on the 1.8 n/a

one way to be sure is to measure the size of the disc - if its 288mm you're in luck :smiley:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: ashw831 on 12 May 2009, 10:22: am almost certain it isnt.....280 i thinks!! :cry:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: P6UL K on 14 May 2009, 18:49: No mention of the 2.0 16v GTi anywhere or have i over looked the info in the posted links?

I have 288mm, so would that be the same?

Just need the carriers, discs and pads and away we go? :cool:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 14 May 2009, 21:01: Quote from: P6UL K on 14 May 2009, 18:49
No mention of the 2.0 16v GTi anywhere or have i over looked the info in the posted links?

I have 288mm, so would that be the same?

Just need the carriers, discs and pads and away we go? :cool:

The only thing you've overlooked is the Mk3 section!!! :P :D

There was never a (UK) 2.0 16v Mk4. ;)
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 14 May 2009, 21:05: Quote from: ashw831 on 12 May 2009, 09:01
Just had a look in the maintenance sect.... it says that the 2.0 8v needs the hub changing & the 1.8 turbo doesnt.... what about the 1.8 20v n/a? does any one know?

IIRC, the 125 has the 280's, so will need the hubs changing. :(
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: P6UL K on 14 May 2009, 21:14: Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 14 May 2009, 21:01
Quote from: P6UL K on 14 May 2009, 18:49
No mention of the 2.0 16v GTi anywhere or have i over looked the info in the posted links?

I have 288mm, so would that be the same?

Just need the carriers, discs and pads and away we go? :cool:

The only thing you've overlooked is the Mk3 section!!! :P :D

There was never a (UK) 2.0 16v Mk4. ;)

Ha ha yeah lol

I did have a look but the search option bought me here :tongue:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 26 May 2009, 10:52: So I've just done a bit of shopping and purchased the following :

AUDI TT MINTEX FRONT BRAKE DISCS & PADS:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=230324593648

VW/Audi 312mm front Brake calipers and carriers:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=320371191240

Do I need anything else before I get my mechanic out to fit them?

Cheers,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Rhyso on 26 May 2009, 10:56: nope that will do it
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Ridg on 26 May 2009, 11:53: not a bad price either and pre-painted which is a result
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: Wazzzer on 26 May 2009, 12:05: and can sell your current calipers and carriers for a bit to offset the cost :smiley:
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 26 May 2009, 13:04: Quote from: Wazzzer on 26 May 2009, 12:05
and can sell your current calipers and carriers for a bit to offset the cost :smiley:

Wanna buy them ?

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 28 May 2009, 09:48: Disks and Pads arrived and they are bloody heavy!

Just awaiting the new callipers before I book my mechanic :)

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 28 May 2009, 11:29: Bright red callipers arrived and its booked in for Tuesday :)

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 02 June 2009, 10:19: Front Big Brake Upgrade now complete :)

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: THiNK on 02 June 2009, 18:47: I'm selling my old set up : http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=118613.msg1041350#msg1041350

Open to offers.

Regards,

CS
Title: Re: 312mm Front Brake Upgrade
Post by: liffy99 on 04 June 2009, 15:27: Shame I just missed this thread . . .

I've a complete 312mm set up just taken from my Audi TT 225.
Mintex disks and pads have done 9k miles and have 25mm and 11mm thickness (so hardly worn).
Complete with carriers, calipers and hoses.

I cleaned them up and hammerited them black - but you could easily repaint if you wanted.

Looking for £175 the lot. 01458 860765 - Glastonbury