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Title: engine dropping
Post by: gtiandy8v on 31 January 2009, 22:47
my brother has just bought a 1.6 cl and wants to drop a 2.0 8v motor into her, is it as easy as just taking 1 engine out and dropping the other  in or is their more to it? All help would be appreciated thanks Andy!
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: boneybradley on 31 January 2009, 23:01
you need the engine. gear box. driveshafts. ecu (and signal reciever and key if post 95). rad. engine wiring loom and you'll also need to sort the brakes (as 239mm solid discs will be scary). and i would advise sorting some suspension out too
not really easy!!
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: shepgti on 31 January 2009, 23:03
or just buy a 8v gti for 500 quid...?
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: gtiandy8v on 01 February 2009, 09:36
cheers boney, new their was more to it than just swapping engines, will be on the look out for a full 8v car to do the project with, must be able to get 1 fairly cheap some wher lol
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: shepgti on 01 February 2009, 09:49
WHAT!?!?!? why do you people do this!?!? if you have a working 8v gti why the fcuk would you put it into a sh!tty 1.6 shell?? its just retarded!?!
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: gtiandy8v on 01 February 2009, 09:59
WHAT!?!?!? why do you people do this!?!? if you have a working 8v gti why the fcuk would you put it into a sh!tty 1.6 shell?? its just retarded!?!


thats what dubbing is all about, some of us like to tinker and some dont (you) and it wouldnt be clean gti I would be taking the parts off it would be 1 that has been written off or scrapped
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2009, 10:11
It is worth bearing in mind that when you have finished, you will need a engineers report and your insurance will a lot more than a factory Gti, I don't see the point in it myself unless you were going for a 16V.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: shepgti on 01 February 2009, 10:13
WHAT!?!?!? why do you people do this!?!? if you have a working 8v gti why the fcuk would you put it into a sh!tty 1.6 shell?? its just retarded!?!


thats what dubbing is all about, some of us like to tinker and some dont (you) and it wouldnt be clean gti I would be taking the parts off it would be 1 that has been written off or scrapped


...i like to tinker.. eg change service parts but putting a gti engine (and an 8v at that???) into a cl/gl shell isnt tinkering its pretty full on not too mention like flushing money down the bog as it will be worth less than a normal one and also more expensive to insure.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Petec82 on 01 February 2009, 12:17
Just do it if you wanna mate! Shep is talkin sensible, but I know how sometimes people get attached to their cars and sensible goes straight out the window! I love my car and would rather stick a new powerhouse in it than upgrade to a newer car! Good luck with the conversion but I personally would go for somethin a little more exciting than an 8v lump!

Pete!
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: LazyLunatic on 01 February 2009, 12:55
go for it m8!! but defo put in something different than an 8v lump.

if ya dont think its a good plan to put a better engine into a cl/gl shell, then you just dont undetstand and no matter how much its explained, you just wont understand. its all about the learning experience and the FUN!!! ohh and not to mention the finished project!!!!  the money, insurance and blah, blah is just the price you have to pay. if ya cant live with the price, you just dnt love it enough LOL!!!! or you have some sense :laugh:

LL ;)
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: gtiandy8v on 02 February 2009, 09:22
thank you for all of your reply's I think I'm gonna stick with the 8v project as I am new to this and the 8v is easier to work on, my own car is a 95 ady engine and if me and our kid are succesful with the cl I will probs have a go at the 16v into my car its just a learning curve for me and I'm gonna love every minute of it Thanks again lads    Andy
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: shepgti on 02 February 2009, 09:30
make sure you make a project thread titled *worlds most boring engine swap*
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2009, 10:22
Good luck with it but for what you will gain it seems pointless to me, Golfs are cheap at the moment I would have thought it would be easier to sell it and buy a Gti.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2009, 10:26
Is the ADY 75 or 100 bhp, the AGG Gti lump is 115 so if yours was a 100bhp it is a lot of work for 15bhp.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: shepgti on 02 February 2009, 10:28
Is the ADY 75 or 100 bhp, the AGG Gti lump is 115 so if yours was a 100bhp it is a lot of work for 15bhp.

hahah would be hilarious if his was the 100bhp model
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: gtiandy8v on 02 February 2009, 10:31
Good luck with it but for what you will gain it seem pointless to me, Golfs are cheap at the moment I would have thought it would be easier to sell it and buy a Gti.


your right it would be easier and cheaper to sell the cl and buy the gti, but me and our kid have the dub bug and want to get our hands dirty mainly just to see if we can do it. We are new to this scene and we will love  evry minute tinkering around the 8v is easier to work on and sounds like a good starting point to me lol a lot of you might think otherwise but you have to start somwhere and then go on to other things
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Khare on 02 February 2009, 10:33
ADY is 115 aint it?
Ive got a gti 8v ady code and all gtis are 115 right? not 100.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2009, 10:34
Good luck with it but for what you will gain it seem pointless to me, Golfs are cheap at the moment I would have thought it would be easier to sell it and buy a Gti.


your right it would be easier and cheaper to sell the cl and buy the gti, but me and our kid have the dub bug and want to get our hands dirty mainly just to see if we can do it. We are new to this scene and we will love  evry minute tinkering around the 8v is easier to work on and sounds like a good starting point to me lol a lot of you might think otherwise but you have to start somwhere and then go on to other things

I know that but have you tried to get an insurance quote it will be nearly double what a Factory Gti would cost plus you will need a engineers report when you have finished, it seems a lot of work to me for very little gain, fair enough if you were dropping in a Vr6 but not a 8V.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2009, 10:37
ADY is 115 aint it?
Ive got a gti 8v ady code and all gtis are 115 right? not 100.

No he has a 1.6, someone put up a list the other day but it might be the 100bhp version.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Khare on 02 February 2009, 10:38
ADY is 115 aint it?
Ive got a gti 8v ady code and all gtis are 115 right? not 100.

No he has a 1.6, someone put up a list the other day but it might be the 100bhp version.
phew!! was gonna say my gti deffo feels more than 100bhp.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: boneybradley on 02 February 2009, 10:42
Mines an ady 115bhp (similar to the agg but they were designed for the sharan...and differ to the agg by having a higher compression...and better mid range apparantly)
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Khare on 02 February 2009, 10:45
Mines an ady 115bhp (similar to the agg but they were designed for the sharan...and differ to the agg by having a higher compression...and better mid range apparantly)
:smiley: thats always good to hear  :smiley:

definitly got good midrange pull.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2009, 10:47
Mines an ady 115bhp (similar to the agg but they were designed for the sharan...and differ to the agg by having a higher compression...and better mid range apparantly)

So if your 2.0 Gti is a ADY how can his 1.6 also be a ADY.
Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: boneybradley on 02 February 2009, 11:04

So if your 2.0 Gti is a ADY how can his 1.6 also be a ADY.

I guess the wrong code has being quoted...... :huh:

Title: Re: engine dropping
Post by: gtiandy8v on 02 February 2009, 11:09
just got the code for the 1.6 its aee wich is our kids car my car is the ady 8v gti