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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: lordflint on 18 January 2009, 20:32

Title: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 18 January 2009, 20:32
Hi All,

i've recently got new gti mk5, loving it, but have checked and i dont have a spare wheel....not even a get you home - space saverjob. nada. just a pump and some tyre weld like stuff, which in my experience never works...

So i am wondering what i can do to get this sorted. Choice seem to be

1) Steel wheel
2) Space saver

I am wondering if it is possible to get steel wheel to fit a GTI with is large disc brakes? would a mk4 maybe fit? I assume it is possible to call VW to get  space saver but i think that will be a pricey to get direct from them. Also would need a jack and a wheel brace etc.
Just really wondering what other folk have done in this situation...

thanks for any pointers..

Dave
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: bacillus on 18 January 2009, 20:43
Your car is an import and not of UK spec.

A full size spare wheel will be taller than the height of the wheel well so get a space saver from a salvage yard if you don't want to get it from vw.
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: stealthwolf on 18 January 2009, 22:22
Or buy a full-sized wheel + a boot lid thing that allows you to accommodate the extra height of the spare.
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: JonnyG on 18 January 2009, 23:16
If you're patient you'll be able to get a Golf Mk V Spacesaver from E-bay for around £40-£50

I managed to get an unused one with the foam tray and all tools to replace my "puncture repair kit" that came with my import  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: bobotheclown on 19 January 2009, 09:33
I have bought a spare Monza alloy from fleabay and a set of these (approx £28 from your local VW dealer):

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll190/bobotheclown_gti/01a.jpg)

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll190/bobotheclown_gti/02a.jpg)

Can't remember the part numbers. However I had to chop some of the polystyrene off for it to fit in the boot properly. But once done it works a dream. there are little pockets for all your tools to go in.

You do lose some space but it's worth knowing that if you get a puncture then you're not stuck at going 50mph down the motorway.
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: bobotheclown on 19 January 2009, 09:43
Found this on another website with VW part numbers

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/109098/745308.aspx
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 19 January 2009, 10:19
Hi guys,

many thanks for your replies - i will keep an eye on ebay.

Thats one of the reasons why i shouldnt of bought it from motorpoint i guess, I'm just embrassed i never checked until it was too late..  :embarassed:
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 19 January 2009, 14:51
If a car doesnt have runflats or some kind of puncture repair thing with it....is it LEGAL for MP to sell cars with no spare? I thought it a legal requirement? I may be wrong....of course  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 19 January 2009, 15:25
it came with an air compressor and some "tyre-seal" fluid stuff.

Not much use when u put it into the tyre and it promptly pishes out a hole in the sidewall....  :huh:

Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: flyingzard on 19 January 2009, 16:23
I had the same issue buying from Motorpoint...

Bet you can't turn you lights of as well  :laugh:

still i bet you saved a packet on one - i certainly did and these are minor issues to overcome!
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 19 January 2009, 16:42
Cant turn your lights off? are imports setup differently? Or was yours a swedish volvo-esque VW ?
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: ub7rm on 19 January 2009, 18:15
If a car doesnt have runflats or some kind of puncture repair thing with it....is it LEGAL for MP to sell cars with no spare? I thought it a legal requirement? I may be wrong....of course  :rolleyes:


Its legal to have no spare wheel (or even the tyre weld stuff) but if you do have a spare wheel it has to be legal tread wise...

So you could get busted for having a dodgy spare wheel but they cant touch you if you dont have a spare wheel at all  :laugh:
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 19 January 2009, 18:20
Nah my lights are ok....

So flyingzard where did you get your space saver - was it from an authorised dealer? I asked one today, but they have still to get back to me. Just wondering what ballpark price was for one new, as opposed to the £50ish off ebay.

Does anyone know if a spacesaver for a normal golf would be ok, I assume it maybe needs to be just for a GTI cause of the disc brakes etc.

MP saved me cash certainly, just wished the salesman had told me about the non-spare thing. Suppose its not in his interest, but would of been nice to know before i got stranded in Glencoe on Saturday night...
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: flyingzard on 20 January 2009, 08:58
I have not managed to source one off e-bay yet so i am sure we will be bidding against each other soon!

i spoke to my local dealer and asked for a quote for a 17 inch spare and he checked saying that VW do not make one.....

I am pretty sure i got some advice in the forum stating that you actually need an 18 inch spare which seemed odd to me
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 20 January 2009, 11:11
18inch for a 17inch? eh? that seems odd. Are you looking for a spare wheel or a spacesaver?

I have asked my local dealer about - no news yet. Will post when i hear something. Looks like it will need to be a spacesaver, unless you want to do what other helpful soles have pointed to above in this thread with the foam etc.

I'd ideally want a steel wheel, but again dont know what size would be needed etc.
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 20 January 2009, 11:21
Are we seriously saying here that a VW dealer has been unable to advise what the spare wheel should be in the back of your car?

Whilst I am sure its not a common request, wtf cant they easily go and find out for you...I mean, they probably have about 2 dozen similar cars within about 20 yards of their office.  Jeez this bad mood is really not shifting...probably cos blackcircles cant source until Friday :(

(see previous post on sidewall damage for explanation).
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 20 January 2009, 11:26
Well mate i have asked Arnold bloody clark and also verve. No replies so far. I assume they wont make much cash out of it so its probably at the bottom of the list. If i dont get a reply soon i will just pop round and try and nail one of them down, and open the boot myself and have a look. They are a bunch of fa**ies after all...

I have used eytres in the past - seemed very good to me, and might beat the black circle  crew, might be worth a bash.

http://www.etyres.co.uk/

cheers
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 20 January 2009, 11:43
Ahhh.. I see you are familiar with Mr Clark,....yes you have his middle name quite correct....they are a bunch of useless tossers.....I have a space saver, its probably a 17 inch one, I will be in the back of the car later and let you know the dimensions etc.
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: Sootchucker on 20 January 2009, 13:12
According to ETKA:

Wheel Disc Steel (temporary spare wheel)
diagonal ply tyre (emergency)

Size - 3.5Jx18H2 ET25

Tyre: T125/70 R 18

Approx £210-£220 from VW - Part Number 1K0 601 011
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 20 January 2009, 14:31
£200! Bloody hell.

Was thinking of taking a chance on this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180322147536&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123

What do folk think? Looks pretty good to me...
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: flyingzard on 20 January 2009, 16:07
I was looking for a space saver Flint.

That looks good to me. I expect it would fit but am not 100% certain...
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: JonnyG on 20 January 2009, 18:03
Was thinking of taking a chance on this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180322147536&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123

What do folk think? Looks pretty good to me...

Nice one !   Looks a bargain to me .. I see you bought it  :evil:

Ask them if the foam tray,  jack & tools are available too  :smiley: 
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 20 January 2009, 20:51
well it is off ebay so we'll see if

a) it ever arrives
b) it is what they say it is...

i've asked the question about the extras, if its no good to be me i'll post on here and let anyone who wants it first dibs.

Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 20 January 2009, 20:51
and the seller was......Spotty Sales/ Service Scrote c/o Motorpoint Burnley, Derby, Glasgow or Peterborough  :grin:

Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: lordflint on 20 January 2009, 23:29
scrote from glasgow...

Hopefully be ok and i can then splash on a set of those blubs being talked about.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 21 January 2009, 11:36
If I EVER trade in to MP I shall remove my spare wheel and sell it on the bay or offer it to someone here.  In its place I shall stick a can of that crappy gunk, dont think they can say a thing about it really, its legal and they actually sell new cars with no spare.....BEND over and take it all the way..... :laugh:
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 January 2009, 17:46
If a car doesnt have runflats or some kind of puncture repair thing with it....is it LEGAL for MP to sell cars with no spare? I thought it a legal requirement? I may be wrong....of course  :rolleyes:

My RS4 is full proper UK spec car, and it does not have runflats, and only comes with a bottle of goo and a leccy pump!

Perhaps you'd like to give me a clue where I can store a spare, even a pram wheel space saver?  :evil:
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/ea1b1937.jpg)
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: KentBladeboy on 30 January 2009, 17:58
Yep + 1 with that on my M3 , can of gooo and electric pump,  just great if you get a sidewall puncture or large hole   :angry:
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: bobotheclown on 30 January 2009, 18:08
If a car doesnt have runflats or some kind of puncture repair thing with it....is it LEGAL for MP to sell cars with no spare? I thought it a legal requirement? I may be wrong....of course  :rolleyes:

My RS4 is full proper UK spec car, and it does not have runflats, and only comes with a bottle of goo and a leccy pump!

Perhaps you'd like to give me a clue where I can store a spare, even a pram wheel space saver?  :evil:
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/ea1b1937.jpg)

just throw it on the back seats?  :laugh:

On a serious note, when ordering the car could you have asked for a spare wheel instead of the can of goo? Also do you feel the goo is a safe alternative to a spare wheel?
Title: Re: Spare wheel question
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 January 2009, 18:46
just throw it on the back seats?  :laugh:

On a serious note, when ordering the car could you have asked for a spare wheel instead of the can of goo? Also do you feel the goo is a safe alternative to a spare wheel?

For the GTI, you can specify either a space saver or a "Tyre Mobility System" (can of goo and pump!  :rolleyes:).  For the RS4, you don't get a choice - can you see the size of the battery in my spare wheel well?  It is a 110Ah / 850A monster!