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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Shady Pioneer on 15 January 2009, 23:41

Title: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 15 January 2009, 23:41
I don't know how to describe this, but my car feels unstable at times, quite alot of the time. I was driving to Bridgewater today and it's not so much on the motorway but mostly all other roads, when I'm doing about 30+ any bump, hill, or anything in the road, my car kind of skids the rear end out a bit and it doesn't feel like I'm in total control.

As I said it's hard to describe but I'm sure you can get the general idea. It might be the suspension (I know one shock or spring isn't great but coilovers will be on next week) it can't be the tracking because I had that done very recently. And it's not the tyres as I just had a brand new one put on and the other front one has loads of tread.

What do you all think?
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: billy_vw on 15 January 2009, 23:43
must be suspension
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: 01664gti on 15 January 2009, 23:46
could check rear bushes and front wishbones to while your at it to be sure
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 15 January 2009, 23:48
must be suspension

You reckon that's what it is? I can find out for sure when I get it lowered next week but it's been like this for quite some time.

BTW, congrats on Mk3 Ownership :)

I've had a front bush done, but I'll get my mate to check out if I need the rears done, don't think it could be the wishbones but worth a check.
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: LazyLunatic on 15 January 2009, 23:56
if your rear end if kicking out a bit sort of thing, then check all your bushes in the rear for movement and wear.

any knocking sounds at all from the rear?


LL ;)
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 15 January 2009, 23:59
No not really, I do know when I've been for a drive, there's a slight tapping, knocking sort of sound, very faint but sounds like it's coming from driver's side suspension. It defo kicks out from the rear though, can be scary sometimes.
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2009, 00:04
It will 100% be your Susp, they felt the same on mine, cured by fitting coilovers mk3 Golfs were always underdamped.
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 16 January 2009, 00:10
It will 100% be your Susp, they felt the same on mine, cured by fitting coilovers mk3 Golfs were always underdamped.

So that's referring to the feeling of not being completely in control as well when hitting bumps etcs?
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2009, 00:11
It will 100% be your Susp, they felt the same on mine, cured by fitting coilovers mk3 Golfs were always underdamped.

So that's referring to the feeling of not being completely in control as well when hitting bumps etcs?

Yes, the std. susp. setup on a mk3 is crap to be honest, I hated the way it felt on mine, trust once you get the coilovers on you will notice a world of difference.
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 16 January 2009, 00:17
It will 100% be your Susp, they felt the same on mine, cured by fitting coilovers mk3 Golfs were always underdamped.

So that's referring to the feeling of not being completely in control as well when hitting bumps etcs?

Yes, the std. susp. setup on a mk3 is crap to be honest, I hated the way it felt on mine, trust once you get the coilovers on you will notice a world of difference.

Ok that's cool, I did have it on the old suspension too, just wait until I get the coilovers :D
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2009, 00:18
It will 100% be your Susp, they felt the same on mine, cured by fitting coilovers mk3 Golfs were always underdamped.

So that's referring to the feeling of not being completely in control as well when hitting bumps etcs?

Yes, the std. susp. setup on a mk3 is crap to be honest, I hated the way it felt on mine, trust once you get the coilovers on you will notice a world of difference.

Ok that's cool, I did have it on the old suspension too, just wait until I get the coilovers :D

No worries, if you think about it, that old susp. had done 57k on my car plus however more miles you have put on it.
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: azzrobz on 16 January 2009, 00:30
I have the same issues m8, i really dont feel confident going any faster than 55 say on a A /B roads, the car feels so unstable at speed when your on a rough road, or over take an go over cats eyes, feels fine on the Motorway. Going to be overhauling the whole susp setup soon though, just think its 12 years old and covered 130k bound to be sh!te  :laugh:
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 16 January 2009, 00:32
Yeah I see you point wayne, and azzrobz, that's exactly what happens with me on cats eyes, and any heavy painted road marking (that are parallel to the direction you're going) as well. It's scary :(
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: azzrobz on 16 January 2009, 00:47
I also have tram lining problem, i had the same feeling when i fitted 18's to my A3, but i think the car needs all the wheels aligning but dont wanna spend and do this until i get the new shocks an springs, cant do anything atm as im skint  :cry:
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: beccasmk3gti on 16 January 2009, 01:10
ive found this on my gti which has done 126k with no shocks that on a/b roads bounces all over but my vr6 stays put n holds the road n thats done 154k miles i put this down the different suspension on the gti being slightly harder for that sport feel
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: VR6-Joe on 16 January 2009, 01:52
My dads Mk3 Golf GL did exactly the same until he put a Supersport suspension kit on it!

I have the same problem with the front of my car though - and that's on coilovers! If you hit a bump or go over a cats eye then the front end jumps in the air.
I suppose it's cus they're so stiff? But it's well scary cus you're not in control of the steering lol!
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Ashley on 16 January 2009, 11:46
I can vouch for this being standard suspension too. It felt like the back end came around by itself without any turning/anything, especially on a B road near where I live..

I changed to hottuning and guess what - it's fine now!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: boneybradley on 16 January 2009, 12:12
well it is a common feeling that the rear isnt as glued to the road as the front.....and its made worse by worn shockers (I'm sure its the cars design that causes this?)...
I do know some people who drive around with a bag of cement in the boot due to the lightness of the rear!!
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: azzrobz on 16 January 2009, 13:34
ahh it does feel worse when i took my sub an amp out.
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: Ashley on 16 January 2009, 14:24
I do know some people who drive around with a bag of cement in the boot due to the lightness of the rear!!

That's commitment!  :laugh: Would be cooler to mix up the cement and fill the spare wheel well though, then carpet over it  :cool:
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: harlemex on 16 January 2009, 15:10
I have standard shox on my rear(i think) they are a year old. It feels absolutely solid and was one of the first things i noticed when i bought the car. So maybe they arent standard, not sure just they feel solid. I have powerflex bushes on the axle, but they were replaced by me to stop the dredded slamming issue :laugh:
Title: Re: I might have a big problem with my car
Post by: LazyLunatic on 16 January 2009, 17:55
im thinking of putting standard shocks back on then! :laugh:

LL ;)