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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: DarnPB on 13 January 2009, 19:22
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I know. I'm a lazy F.S.
Which 2.0 16v is the same height as the KR unit please?
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From what I've been reading in the past few days,
The ABF is a tall block
The 9A is a mid block
the 6A is a short block - which needs a sump off another block
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9a and 6a are the same height as a KR
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Fank yoo! :smiley:
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'nother question. Are the pistons and the crankshafts fitted to the 9a, 6a and ABF blocks the same?
I know the ABF has longer conrods.
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the 6A is a 9A but in north south format, sump and oil pickup are diffrent. kr bits are straight swap
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'nother question. Are the pistons and the crankshafts fitted to the 9a, 6a and ABF blocks the same?
I know the ABF has longer conrods.
ABF cranck is diffrent to 6A and 9A. 6A and 9A cranckshafts are same as 2e and same style as kr PB ect, abf has same cranck as AGG
pistons ummm they look tha same, have some out on the floor atm can measure
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'nother question. Are the pistons and the crankshafts fitted to the 9a, 6a and ABF blocks the same?
I know the ABF has longer conrods.
ABF cranck is diffrent to 6A and 9A. 6A and 9A cranckshafts are same as 2e and same style as kr PB ect, abf has same cranck as AGG
pistons ummm they look tha same, have some out on the floor atm can measure
P.M.ing you............
Sent.
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ABF cranck is diffrent to 6A and 9A. 6A and 9A cranckshafts are same as 2e and same style as kr PB ect, abf has same cranck as AGG
pistons ummm they look tha same, have some out on the floor atm can measure
ABF crank is the same as 9a, 2e/AGG/ADY crank is not the same as any 16v jobber. Rods are the same on ABF/2e/ADY, KR & 9a rods are the same.
As for pistons, early 2e pistions are different from later ones, late 2e ones are the same as ADY ones. AGG ones are different again. ABF pistons are the same as late 9a ones, early 9a ones are different.
edit: this is based on a party number search on etka anyway. I have seen 2e rods that were more chunky than ABF ones, perhaps ABF/2e rods were superceeded by a new thype...
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That is really usefull information. Thanks for that! :smiley:
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ABF cranck is not the same as 9A
6 / 9 A cranckshaft
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/dannyp1595/cranck.jpg)
AGG / ABF cranckshaft
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/dannyp1595/100_0715.jpg)
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Like I said, this is based purely on etka numbers. Who's to say that the ABF crank + pickup has not superceeded the old 9a crank?
2e, ADY & AGG crank are all the same part number, and also different to the ABF.
053 105 101 K - 2e, AGG, ADY
053 105 101 H - ABF, 9a
This suggests the 2.0 8v cranks are not the same as the 2.0 16v, but that does not mean they wont fit! Could just be slight casting differences or weights.
As I said before, ETKA says the ABF and 2e conrods are the same, but I have seen that they are different. My guess is again there has been a part supercession which replaces one or the other, or both. You cant buy them singly from VAG either so this prob explains why they were happy to drop the part that was superceeded, no chance of a missmatch that way.
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the crank may be the same but the abf just has a trigger wheel built in?
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all the 2ltr cranckshafts are 92.8 mm stroke. in that respect they are all the same.
oh ABF and 9A pistons cannot at any point be the same, unless some 9A's are tall block and i think thats very unlikely
would piss me off somewhat if orders a ABF cranck and got one without toothed wheel, as for ABF cranck fitting 9A i'll try that later
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it does say 'use trigger wheel if required' on etka. I guess ETKA is wrong then it does happen! the 9a were all short block.
Edit: Its not a crank sensor difference between 8v n 16v cranks, as the AGG also has a crank sensor, and that has same part listed as 2e, which does not.
Edit2: Heres the page, you can see if required you have to also order the trigger wheel n bolts:
(http://vwtech.no-ip.info/images/golf/g3crank16-20.jpg)
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Aha, the US bentley says the 9a is also 92.8 stroke:
http://www.iol.ie/~kilkennyhockey/BentleyManual/GE01/ch1.4.1.html