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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: golfnutz on 12 January 2009, 21:17
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hi got a 88 cabby and fancy putting a abf i got sitting into it
had anyone done this and could help me out with what i need to do it
got a mark 2 16v gearbox here heard thats a better option
basicly stripped ma old abf 2 so most parts available to me
what clutch will i need
how will the wiring marry up
what problems will i incurr with the exhaust
and i better using webber carbs or any other suggestions
can anyone thing of any problems i hay have or maybe just general advise on conversion
thanks
kev
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the old cab obox will also be ok, but if the cab wasnt a GTI to start with then yeah a MK2 GTI one would be better suited. You need to m atch the clutch to the gearbox, and fit a 210mm flywheel. If your cab was at least a 1.8 then it'll have a 210 flywheel.
What is required to ABF it depends what the cabby is right now, carb or injection?
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presently carb so take it fuel lines tank n pump required , i got a 16v mark 2 gearbox take it that will do will i need different shafts or hubs basicly anything u can tell me will be appreciated
regards kev
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if you go with the kr box check the shafts on your cabby, since its a late model it might have the larger 100mm shafts already, whihc would be good news. You will need the fuel tank out of a late cabby or scirocco injection car, along with the in-tank lift pump, main pump and also lines between. I believe the late cab also has an accumulator or swirl pot of some kind under there as well? The fuel lines to the front of the car will also be needed. If you plan to go with the std ABF managment you'll need to cut them down so they sit on the driver side then push fit the ABF rubber lines over the top, I'd shove em on as far as possible then double clip them in place unless you have the ability to crimp a lip in them.
If you go with k-jet injection from a KR, you'll need to keep the end fittings on the fuel lines, so carefull routing of the lines to the driver side or replacement with crazyquiffs 16v conversion lines will be required.
How handy are you with wiring?
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wirings not ma strong point but know a man who is so have to roap him in to it i have the complete abf loom ecu etc
so to get this right since i have now binned the stock engine ill need a 1.8 210 flywheel off say a 8v or a kr a kr clutch , with it being the tall block rather than the 9a does the kr injection system fit under the bonnet ,i have the shafts although unaware of size as was not a gti only a clipper carb model is hard top gti petrol tank the same or will it have to be a late gti cabby or scirocco and what exhaust manifold if recommend
cheers
kev
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aye 210mm flywheel from some kind of 1.8 model, 8v or 16v, carb or inj. Clutch you need to match it to the gearbox you use, sachs kits have the same pressure plate either way so it doent matter which you get in terms of strength. I have an ABF on k-jet in my mk2, it JUST fits under the bonnet so it might be a struggle in a MK1, not tried it thoguh.
Being a late cab 1.8 it is likely to have the 100mm shafts, but measure em to be sure. You want the main and lifter injection pump setup from a late cab/rocco model, the MK1 GTI tank is different. Its bigger in the late cab/rocco too so dont think the early one will swap on eithr!
As for the manifold you need to either source a 16v scirocco one (goo luck) buy a conversion 4 branch, or make a custom downpipe that will mate to a MK2/3 16v manifold.
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As for the manifold you need to either source a 16v scirocco one (goo luck)
i have 2 of them :smug: .. that smug smiley is nowhere near smug enough to express my smugness.
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hottuning sell one, and it's much better quality than there coilovers
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i have 2 of them :smug: .. that smug smiley is nowhere near smug enough to express my smugness.
How much are they worth then mate :evil:
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on the one hand, yes they're rare etc, but on the other, they're really old now. 16v manifols have a tendancy to crack as well, so again a goodun is quite rare to find. But then you can buy a 4 branch off the shelf, so they arn't really worth any more than one of those, if you use your head rather than your heart :P
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oh i thought you were talking inlet manifolds, with the TB on t'other side.. it's two of those I've got, not exhaust :grin:
that'll teach me to read in whole sentences.
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ah thats a different kettle o fish :grin:
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aye but still rare, and not in the ebay sense :laugh: I paid 70 quid including delivery for a 42mm one all the way from the states, and i think 90 quid for a practically brand new 50mm one.. makes me want to slap people when i see them add the scene tax and try to flog them for 200+ on other forums.
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yeah they're worth more than zaust manifold/downpipess which you can make yourself, buy em off the shelf etc. Inlet you cant, plus its handy for some boost applications or for those wanting to be oem freaks and try to build a limited so they a fair bit more desirable!