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Title: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: HandsyBoy on 12 January 2009, 12:46
VW said my engine was arl... What does that mean?  :embarassed:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: topher on 12 January 2009, 12:53
Means it's a 150bhp PD diesel
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: ben1.8T on 12 January 2009, 12:55
Means it's a 150bhp PD diesel

Also means remap it and have sh!t loads of torque  :cool:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: HandsyBoy on 12 January 2009, 13:36
OOOOOh more power... now ur talkin. So does this model produce more power? What sort of gains....
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: T_J_G on 12 January 2009, 13:50
OOOOOh more power... now ur talkin. So does this model produce more power? What sort of gains....

190BHP and nearly 300 lbs/ft torque I believe.
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2009, 14:11
OOOOOh more power... now ur talkin. So does this model produce more power? What sort of gains....

190BHP and nearly 300 lbs/ft torque I believe.

yep depending on the map you should see over 300lbs ft

just budget to replace your clutch soon after!!

Give Nick @ R-Tech a call - he's done my 130 and Steve_PD 150 with good results :afro:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: HandsyBoy on 12 January 2009, 14:22
does it hammer ur clutch then?
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2009, 14:24
does it hammer ur clutch then?

urm yeah lol

standard clutch is good for approx 285lbs ft torque but depending on the map and age of the car and how heavy your right foot is will determine how long it lasts  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: HandsyBoy on 12 January 2009, 14:43
Well thats just put me off..... How much are clutches fitted?
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2009, 14:54
Well thats just put me off..... How much are clutches fitted?

for our engines approx £900 - not cheap but worth every penny!
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: HandsyBoy on 12 January 2009, 14:57
why on earth are they that expensive?  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2009, 15:01
why on earth are they that expensive?  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

instead of the normal 225mm diameter our are the larger 240mm diameter - plus they have to cop with a lot of torque - as much as 50% more than the equivalent petrol engine
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: w0ffle on 12 January 2009, 16:16
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Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2009, 16:23
Indeed, plus you will probably need a flywheel and the labour to have it fitted.


yeah i forgot to mention that price i quoted included a new flywheel, release bearing and the labour to ft it
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: w0ffle on 12 January 2009, 16:41
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Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Steve_PD on 12 January 2009, 18:17
Well thats just put me off..... How much are clutches fitted?

for our engines approx £900 - not cheap but worth every penny!

and the rest  :cry: £550 for a clutch - £250 flywheel (£450 if you go VW) - release bearing + fitting around £200+
worth it tho  :cool:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Steve_PD on 12 January 2009, 18:21
Also you'll want new brakes as the standard ones are poo
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 12 January 2009, 19:17
Tut tut Rhyso,

You don't normally seem to cross the T's and dot the I's :P

well if people did a little research then they'd know the price i quoted wasn't just for the clutch.  But then people are lazy............
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: HandsyBoy on 13 January 2009, 08:41
Either way im not shelling out that much for a clutch if i can prevent it. No remap for me  :sad:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 13 January 2009, 08:45
Either way im not shelling out that much for a clutch if i can prevent it. No remap for me  :sad:

Chicken  :tongue:

you only live once!! and your clutch will give up the ghost eventually  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: jettagolf on 13 January 2009, 09:29
no it wont our 150pd had 166000 miles on it with the original clutch :laugh: it didnt have a remap though
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: MrTurner on 13 January 2009, 11:01
I take it the OEM petrol clutch can take the map as the torque increase isn't as much as the diesel?
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 13 January 2009, 11:06
I take it the OEM petrol clutch can take the map as the torque increase isn't as much as the diesel?

yep it can

think Rich had his mapped at 65K and has just recently replaced at approx 120K so quite good going.  A lot also depends on driving style too - labouring the engine etc will shorten the lifespan considerably
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: MrTurner on 13 January 2009, 11:11
Cool - our clutch has been changed in the last 12 months (original lasted 166k!).  The majority of the use is up and down the M1/A52, it's only when I get the keys does it get ragged!
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 13 January 2009, 11:15
Cool - our clutch has been changed in the last 12 months (original lasted 166k!).  The majority of the use is up and down the M1/A52, it's only when I get the keys does it get ragged!

well if its only done motorway mileage then no wonder its lasted that long lol

mine lasted about 3K after the remap  :cry: :cry:  thats the power of the derv though  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: MrTurner on 13 January 2009, 12:26
thats the power of the derv though  :laugh: :laugh:
You sure the clutch didn't just get all choked up with the soot  :grin: :sick:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: Rhyso on 13 January 2009, 12:53
thats the power of the derv though  :laugh: :laugh:
You sure the clutch didn't just get all choked up with the soot  :grin: :sick:

fairly sure - mine's of the (fairly) smokeless variety  :smug: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Whay does ARL engine mean???
Post by: w0ffle on 13 January 2009, 17:21
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