mk2 vr6 or abf??????

[Diamond Hell]

Tubular exhaust manifold.

It wanted to give 170bhp anyway.

[Jay]

So where's the missing 50-60bhp, eh?

VW forgot the 12 other valves 

[RO83]

is it possible to get 200bhp out of the abf without to much effort

[danny_p]

i think 200 bhp should be possible  without to much effort.    these engine in all form give about 240 - 250.       
i'm aiming for 200 but will be useng ITB's but controlled by std ecu

[RO83]

that wat i was thinking they look lush and tidy up a bay nicely wat gains do u get or expect from that setup??? bet they wil sound nice to

[danny_p]

the abf  looks tidyer in the bay than the other 16v's as there is no metering head and crap

 i'm going to get at least 200 or i'll be pissed off.   200 is possible from std cams and manifold with headwork, manifold and good mapping and if the rest of the enigne is perfect but it is a bit of an ask,   with the itb's instead of std manifold i'll loose a bit of bottom end but will make top end gains easyer 200 is the first target

[sidecarphil]

how old is your car with the ABF in it ??

was it a fairly staight forward conversion ??

i know i'm bothering someone elses topic but i am really searching for a seat ibiza GTi now

[Diamond Hell]

It's an 89 Golf Syncro.

It wasn't the *easiest* conversion, but the results are great.

Most of the 'hard' bits were to do with it being a Syncro, but that's what makes it so good.

[lowmk1]

Next year i will be swapping the kr lump to abf, the deciding factor for me was cost. As i cant do the conversion myself im gna be looking at getting someone else to do it, meaning...saving literaly £1000's. Had a few quotes abf is somehwere around the £1500-2k mark and vr is about £3.5 For that kind of money though i'd save up an extra year and 1.8turb it!!!

[danny_p]

for 3.5 k   id build a 1Z based abf hydrid 16vt . or a 2.0 tfsi