Author Topic: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc  (Read 31760 times)

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #10 on: 31 October 2008, 16:19 »
or alternatively you could run it on the proper electronic management but it's a lot more involved.

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #11 on: 31 October 2008, 16:37 »
There is that, but its a lot of work when you already have the injection system fitted.  Main issue is the lack of a lambda hole in the oem downpipe, once thats sorted its not too bad providing you have a CE2 fusebox.  Then again even if you have CE1 its not may wires to splice to get it going!
All assuming you manage to get an ABF with all the loom and ECU, a complete donor car makes more sence if you plan to go that way, or at least take someone along who knows exactly what you need.  Forgetting things liek the airbox, transponder ring if its a post95 with immobilisor and other little bits n bobs will make for frustration later on down the line.

Main thing to think about when you make this descision is how long you want the car out of action and how good you are at wiring.  I've driven my mates ABF on the MK3 managment and my own on KJet, the k-jet feels more 'urgent' for lack of a better word.
The ABF managment is more refined, it doesnt feel as fast but it definitly is! flat out in my MK2 2.0 8v I couldnt keep up with him and he wasnt really trying :grin:

The other reason for runnign the digi setup is its got more scope for tuning, plus not so many places can deal with the old Kjet system its starting to get a bit specialised.  A big plus is you dont have to mess about playing with idle n co screws, or use a timing light to setup the ignition it all takes care of itself!

Edit: getting a VAG-COM cable is a must, diagnostics on these saves a lot of head scratching if things dont work as they should!
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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #12 on: 31 October 2008, 18:57 »
Horney - i'm based in Manchester and very interested its just where I can find the cash!  I have been out of work and only just started working again so been a bit skint!  I can get £100 together and thats it! Unless i beg around! Got any pics of the car?  What condition mileage etc??

So with the 9a engine is it just as easy as with the ABF??

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #13 on: 31 October 2008, 19:51 »
if you use your existing managment it doesnt matter which one you pick, except with the 9a you gotta swap the inlet cam for a decent one!
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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #14 on: 31 October 2008, 20:12 »
The 3A Audi block also fits IIRC (on my travels), it's also known as the "bubble block".

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #15 on: 31 October 2008, 20:20 »
if you use your existing managment it doesnt matter which one you pick, except with the 9a you gotta swap the inlet cam for a decent one!

e.g KR  :wink:

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #16 on: 31 October 2008, 23:14 »
the 3a is an audi 2.0 8 valve, the 6A is the 2.0 16v bubbel block
all the VW's have gone bar 1.

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #17 on: 31 October 2008, 23:17 »
and i take is the 16v is better than the 8v - or this a can of worms?!  :tongue:

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #18 on: 31 October 2008, 23:42 »
the 16v allways wins that argument
all the VW's have gone bar 1.

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Re: 2.0 16v ABF vs 2.0 9a with KR cams etc
« Reply #19 on: 03 November 2008, 11:32 »
if you use your existing managment it doesnt matter which one you pick, except with the 9a you gotta swap the inlet cam for a decent one!

e.g KR  :wink:

Ya, or a pair of ABF cams as said earlier ;)
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