1.8T oil.

[AudiA8Quattro]

okie dokie part number is VZGB 115 QLB 00 406 

Eeeek - that part number is for the Quantum Synta - a 10w40 semi-synthetic, at a tenner for 5 litres!!!  But what is scary is that it has NO VAG petrol engine approval - so drain that sh!t out and put in some decent lube! 

Isn't quantum oil made by castrol for vw? so how can it not be approved?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

i just have tuned ears mate, i dont like the way they say it coats internals with some sort of teflon or spunk or summat... i have personally linked the effects to this..

If you are referring to Castrol Magnatec, you have been clearly mis-informed.  Magnatec is an exceedingly high quality semi-synthetic oil, and uses Group 5 basestocks - which in laymans terms are called 'esters'.  Now anyone who knows anything about automotive engine oils will tell you that esters are THE best basestock you can get, and are very strongly recommended for very high temperatures found in turbo engines.  Ester molecules are 'polarised', and like their adverts, work like a magnet - which provides superb boundary lubrication.  Esters are considerably better than the Gp3 basestocks which Mobil 1 use, along with all the other Yank oil companies!

But as mentioned in my previous post - I would still recommend a fully synth for the turbo 1.8.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/210451/1359418.aspx#1359418 

Sorry, but don't agree with that, and nor do the European Union.  Unfortunately, Mobil spend far more money on advertising and 'product placement' than they do on R&D.  Just go to www.Grid1.tv to see.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Mobil 1 is a quality oil, Rich, I used to use it on the 306 when I got if free at BMW, but I don't see the point of paying the extra for it, now, as I've had no problems (touch-wood) from using Synta Gold for the last 3.5 years on the Golf.

Sorry, but there are far better oils than Mobil 1.  Mobil 1 is a good oil, but absolutely not the 'pinnacle of motor oils' which some of its advertising and marketing bollox would have you beleive!

[Teutonic_Tamer]

just to throw something in - this is from TT

Stick with any of the VW specified oils from the major manufacturers (Castrol, Shell, Elf, Motul, Fuchs), but avoid Mobil 1 (because they lie about their VW approval), Comma, Millers, and the other smaller manufacturers.

Any good?

wouldn't touch Mobil 1 i'm afraid!

not a 1.8T but i've used Fuchs oil in mine at the last service and everything seems ok so far 

Is Fuchs from the dealers aswell bud?

not sure mate - seen somewhere there is speculation that Fuchs is factory fill stuff 

Yup, Fuchs is factory fill.  And if you have never heard of Fuchs, they also own the Silkolene brand, which is close to God-ness in motorbiking circles.  Fuchs make some seriously good stuff, but sadly they don't have a particularly strong presence in the UK retail markets.  However - if you have a Partco nearby, they stock Unipart oils, which are simply rebranded Fuchs oils - to the same identical specs as the 'genuine' Fuchs oils.

HTH

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I use comma 10w-4o semi synth,the cars done 94K 18T AGU engine.Dont know what oil it had in before i got it but i tried 5W-30 fully synth and it sounded tinny,Then was told using 5W-30 oil is to thin and does something to the seals near the turbo so i changed to 10w-40 alot quieter and seems ok

Sorry, but Comma are also shyte - more shyte than a sewerage works.  Comma recently lost all their 'manufacturer' approvals, especially those from Caterham.  Crack open that sump drain plug. 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

okie dokie part number is VZGB 115 QLB 00 406 

Eeeek - that part number is for the Quantum Synta - a 10w40 semi-synthetic, at a tenner for 5 litres!!!  But what is scary is that it has NO VAG petrol engine approval - so drain that sh!t out and put in some decent lube! 

Isn't quantum oil made by castrol for vw? so how can it not be approved?

Yes, you are correct in that Quantum oils are made by Castrol - but only for Volkswagen UK - but NOT Volkswagen AG (who are the ones who grant the approvals).  Go over to Germany, pop into a Dub stealer, and ask 'em for some Quantum - and they won't have the foggiest clue what you are after.  Why do you think that all Quantum stuff has a 'ZGB' part number?  They are simply UK specific products.  Official Volkswagen lubricants always start with a 'G'. 

And whilst Castrol do make it for VW UK, they are NOT the same blends and brews as either the Castrol 'trade' ranges (Castrol Powerflow), or the Castrol 'retail' ranges (GTX, Magnatec, EDGE).

Finally, in order for an oil to gain an official Volkswagen approval, the oil MUST be submitted to Volkswagen AG for their own in-house formal testing procedure - and whilst some Quantum brews have official VW approvals, not all do, and the last time I checked, neither the new Platinum, nor their LongLife 3 had!  Oil companies can NOT 'self-certify' Volkswagen oil standards, unlike they can with API and ACEA standards - yet some do - and Mobil are the worst for this.  For a definative and up to date official list of all VW standards approvals, log on to www.ErWin.Volkswagen.de - you will need to set up a free account before you can download them - but when you do, grab a bottle of say Mobil 1, read what they claim on the reverse of their bottle, and see if they match the official approvals - you will shake your head in disgust! 

[AudiA8Quattro]

So are you saying that all vw uk dealers shouldn't be using quantum oils in their workshops? 
And what about fuchs oils, sold be GSF, what is the quality like?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

So are you saying that all vw uk dealers shouldn't be using quantum oils in their workshops? 

Yup!  Quantum oils (along with all their other products) should NEVER be used by any official VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda workshop.  Quantum stuff is primarily meant to be used by the independent motor trade.

I'm sure you'd be mighty pi$$ed off if a VW garage used a Halfrauds oil filter, or some Quinton Hazel brake pads - and Quantum is no different - Quantum are NOT 'Volkswagen Genuine Parts' or 'Volkswagen Original Teile' - and so should NOT be used in a Volkswagen Group workshop!

And what about fuchs oils, sold be GSF, what is the quality like?

Fuchs is an OEM oil, just like Castrol - and Fuchs stuff is superb, so no probs there.

Just for the record, the top three oil companies, in the world (in terms of 'quality' of oils, and in no order of preference) are Fuchs, Castrol and Motul.  So any correctly approved oil from those three is superb.

[AudiA8Quattro]

So are you saying that all vw uk dealers shouldn't be using quantum oils in their workshops? 

Yup!  Quantum oils (along with all their other products) should NEVER be used by any official VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda workshop.  Quantum stuff is primarily meant to be used by the independent motor trade.

I'm sure you'd be mighty pi$$ed off if a VW garage used a Halfrauds oil filter, or some Quinton Hazel brake pads - and Quantum is no different - Quantum are NOT 'Volkswagen Genuine Parts' or 'Volkswagen Original Teile' - and so should NOT be used in a Volkswagen Group workshop!

And what about fuchs oils, sold be GSF, what is the quality like?

Fuchs is an OEM oil, just like Castrol - and Fuchs stuff is superb, so no probs there.

Just for the record, the top three oil companies, in the world (in terms of 'quality' of oils, and in no order of preference) are Fuchs, Castrol and Motul.  So any correctly approved oil from those three is superb.

I always used quantum oil up to recent years with no problems, until GSF stopped doing it.
GSF started stocking Fuchs, which what i have used for a few years, so i'm glad its good 
As for the quantum, i don't know if agree with you about the quality, however you certainly have got me thinking about it!!
Not that its relevant anymore, as i use the Fuchs.
I'll check out all your info and links when i get some more spare time.
Thanks for the info