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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #10 on: 10 October 2008, 21:44 »
This was running standard management out of the Toledo, not Megasquirt.

The only non-OEM thing that's been fitted to it is a home-built tubular manifold - necessary because it's fitted to a Syncro, not a 2WD.  Obviously no cat, as it doesn't need one.

What I want to know is where the guys who are running ABFs on K-Jet hiding their missing 20+ bhp?

I guess an ABF on K-Jet is great....... if you're looking to remove a lot of the engine's potential.
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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #11 on: 10 October 2008, 21:45 »
quality danny.

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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #12 on: 10 October 2008, 21:51 »
This was running standard management out of the Toledo, not Megasquirt.

The only non-OEM thing that's been fitted to it is a home-built tubular manifold - necessary because it's fitted to a Syncro, not a 2WD.  Obviously no cat, as it doesn't need one.

What I want to know is where the guys who are running ABFs on K-Jet hiding their missing 20+ bhp?

I guess an ABF on K-Jet is great....... if you're looking to remove a lot of the engine's potential.

7 down hactually, with the kjet having more power up to about 5.5k, then dannys rising above :wink: only 3 down on torque as well

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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #13 on: 10 October 2008, 21:57 »
Oh and the clutch is fine.  It's DRAG, not SLIP.  

The drag is where it doesn't release quite as quickly as it should do and the transmission losses are calculated at the point that drive is released.  

This is why the rolling road operator adjusted it down from 179bhp for the drag on the release.

You'll see that my Syncro also has substantial transmission losses, same road, same operator, from a couple of months back:



I tend to forget about the losses as it sticks to the road/track like a limpet, whatever the weather (much like Danny's).

How does 156bhp vs 173bhp = 7bhp?

Danny's did about 40mpg from Dover back to Ross, too.  You see that often?
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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #14 on: 10 October 2008, 22:02 »
oh your comparing it to mine that was running lean are you? thats fair.....



there it is laid over a correctly setup kjet

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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #15 on: 10 October 2008, 22:03 »
Yawn.

You could just whip them out and see who's is biggest?? It would save me the trouble of scanning through yet another "why K-Jet is sh!t" or why "ABF is awesome" post.

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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #16 on: 10 October 2008, 22:04 »
its not mines biggest, its my mates is biggest  :grin: thats even sadder

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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #17 on: 10 October 2008, 22:17 »
oh your comparing it to mine that was running lean are you? thats fair.....

Yes, it is fair.

Yours is 'standard', this is 'standard'.

Thing is, if it was K-jet then this might have run lean, after all, it was just wheeled in there, not prepped and ponced about with........ but then EFi will do everything possible to prevent the engine running lean - hence the fueling on this was right all the way through the rev range, as it was managed by the ECU - there's no need for all this faffing around 'setting up' - it sets itself.

Anything else to declare on your mate's motor?  Or is it standard?
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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #18 on: 10 October 2008, 22:20 »
Yawn.

You could just whip them out and see who's is biggest?? It would save me the trouble of scanning through yet another "why K-Jet is sh!t" or why "ABF is awesome" post.

Theres no right way, just your own way.



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Re: ABF got a baseline today
« Reply #19 on: 10 October 2008, 22:22 »
You willy watching again Dave  :shocked:
is it cos theirs is 0.2 bigger?  :lipsrsealed:
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