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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #30 on: 03 October 2008, 22:55 »
I would have thought it would be better than a s3 IC (remember the twintercooler utilises the oem IC as well) but as I have never seen anyone post logs of the s3 IC I don't know for sure.
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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #31 on: 03 October 2008, 23:00 »
but doesn't it also cover some of the oe intercooler
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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #32 on: 03 October 2008, 23:07 »
but doesn't it also cover some of the oe intercooler
It does but air does flow through its fins. Just think of it as being the same as the air conditioning conderser that sits in front of the oem IC.
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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #33 on: 03 October 2008, 23:14 »
but its an extra restriction in front of the intercooler, and the flow will be warmer if the forge item has done its job
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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #34 on: 03 October 2008, 23:17 »
but how can it be warmer if the tests done by forge show lower tempretures ???

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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #35 on: 03 October 2008, 23:23 »
I only mean the flow coming throught the forge item, which then passes on to the oe intercooler, must be warmer because thats how intercoolers work. I'm not knocking the forge item, it must work the figures prove it. But if you can have a more efficient stock intercooler as in replace it with the S3 one, there's no need for it.
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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #36 on: 03 October 2008, 23:27 »
Im going for the s3 intercooler, its alot cheaper and will have been tested waaaaaay more than the forge one. I really dont like the idea of the twintercooler as ive never seen it on any other car. I also agree with gaz about the warm air too.

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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #37 on: 03 October 2008, 23:28 »
but its an extra restriction in front of the intercooler, and the flow will be warmer if the forge item has done its job
I can see your reasoning but the if that was all to it then the setup would not work better than stock, which it does. http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/media/Forge_GolfV_twinic_v_stock.pdf

Also ask yourself why VF have also come out with essentially the same design after long hours of R&D for their stage 2 IC setup.



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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #38 on: 03 October 2008, 23:36 »
i'm not saying it doesn't work, but why not have a more efficient intercooler to start with,then you don't need this twintercooler set-up.
I'm not sideing with any product but its all about airflow :smiley:
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Re: S3 Intercooler vs Forge Intercooler
« Reply #39 on: 03 October 2008, 23:41 »
The main thing that put me off is the 2 pipes on the left hand side reducing into one, surely that cant flow smoothly through :huh:
Dont have any experience in that so i may be completely wrong.
If i had the money i would get my mate graham who owns grs mototrsport, to knock me up a custom intercooler. He is the master of intercoolers lol, he is very big on the ford rs scene ie cosworth and the new mini cooper s, the one for the mini performed much better than the forge one in back to back tests. It is also ranked as the best top mount available for the cooper s.
He can do custom ones and has recently done a custom intercooler for a porsche turbo which is a very nice bit of kit.
If there were loads of us wanting one, i would use mine as the test car and he would get us a few made.
Hes also good friends with ray west (west tuning) very experienced tuner. Ray rates grahams intercoolers very highly :wink:
Heres a few of his intercoolers on different cars
Golf gti mk1 with a turbo conversion
http://www.grsmotorsport.co.uk/golfgti.html
Mini cooper s, stock next to grs
http://www.grsmotorsport.co.uk/miniintercooler3.jpg

I personally think the quality is excellent especially the welding :cool:. I can ask him if he would do it but would need a few to be interested.

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