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Offline joesgti

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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #10 on: 09 September 2008, 09:18 »
should take f00k all time to throw the gears in, i think your doin somethin wrong :huh:


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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #11 on: 09 September 2008, 10:44 »
Are you only interested in going up through the box or down as well?

Going up through the box, I am to be as smooth as possible. From doing a number of advanced driving + track driving courses, slower is smoother and at speed, better because the car doesn't jerk about as much. Stability is the key here and nothing is worse than watching a car lurch forward on every gear change. I aim to change gear so that the passenger can't feel it but still allowing for me to get sustained and powerful acceleration.

Coming back down through the box, I use rev matching to smooth out the gear change again. This can be achieved by blipping the throttle to match the higher revs as the gear is engaged, or sustaining the revs.

On the track, I generally use the Heel and Toe technique to brake and blip on the down change. In cars like Porsches, it's very easy to lock up the rear diff and spin the car out if you're too aggressive :)
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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #12 on: 09 September 2008, 10:56 »
Agreed - more practice and some advanced driving tuition :evil:

Don't rush the action - be smooth and progressive or you'll break something :wink:

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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #13 on: 09 September 2008, 11:02 »
I've got a manual and changes up from 2nd to 3rd on onwards are smooth (and satisfying when you bang through them, I really can't imagine a DSG box being as satisfying), but 1st to 2nd is a different story, and I very rarely go through it quickly without a bit of a jolt when releasing the clutch.
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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #14 on: 09 September 2008, 11:45 »
Agreed - more practice and some advanced driving tuition :evil:

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Don't rush the action - be smooth and progressive or you'll break something :wink:

Now where have I heard that before?  :embarassed:  :grin:
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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #15 on: 09 September 2008, 12:06 »

....You're going to love this vid!! : -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o

Big deal, who cares

I am not as fast as a robot, but at least I do not have a robot to do my changes for me. Perfect shifts... boring

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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #16 on: 09 September 2008, 14:53 »

....You're going to love this vid!! : -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o

Big deal, who cares

I am not as fast as a robot, but at least I do not have a robot to do my changes for me. Perfect shifts... boring

....I didn't post the vid to claim any superiority between the manual and DSG but only because it's a very amusing vid and a joy to watch.
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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #17 on: 09 September 2008, 17:40 »

....You're going to love this vid!! : -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o

Big deal, who cares

I am not as fast as a robot, but at least I do not have a robot to do my changes for me. Perfect shifts... boring

....I didn't post the vid to claim any superiority between the manual and DSG but only because it's a very amusing vid and a joy to watch.

it most certainly is an interesting video. I've seen it many times. I saw it before I went to buy my manual E30.

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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #18 on: 09 September 2008, 17:55 »

....You're going to love this vid!! : -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o

Big deal, who cares

I am not as fast as a robot, but at least I do not have a robot to do my changes for me. Perfect shifts... boring

....I didn't post the vid to claim any superiority between the manual and DSG but only because it's a very amusing vid and a joy to watch.

it most certainly is an interesting video. I've seen it many times. I saw it before I went to buy my manual E30.

That figures lol!  :wink:

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Re: Improving gear changes
« Reply #19 on: 09 September 2008, 18:02 »
That figures lol!  :wink:

I did.
Being a little faster does not mean that much to me, when it comes to automatic. (OK, ok, DSG is "manual"  :rolleyes: )
The only problem I have with manual is sitting in a queue that goes uphill and moving 10 inches at a time. I really cry for the clutch. In fact when I move and then depress the clutch I hear a clunking sound, I wonder what it is...  :sad:

I want 335i with manual, as well.