VeeDub vs FourRings....

[Peskarik]

Pesky - Good point about the financials - Captain Sensible!

RR, I am totally insensible! I have my E30 for a wee bit over a year and I already betray it in my mind by salivating over 335i (saw a montego blue yesterday, I almost came in my breaches  ) and thinking about changing it in a year time. That'll be financial disaster, for sure. 

[Peskarik]

lad at work has a Red A3 2.0T Quattro with the Sportline pack - nice looking car and the interior is a class act but it just lacks that certain something 

S3 is not A3 2.0T...

Still, changing from E30 to S3 - to me it seems very strange (unless one REALLY needs a premium hatch).

S3 as a first hot hatch - yes.
S3 as replacement for E30 - waste of money. Get A4 or TTS (different shape, at least).

[Peskarik]

I think I only echo what other say but.... the Golf definately has the edge in terms of looks and desireability to the untrained eye. But to those of us in the know the s3 is a superior car. The cabin is the main difference for me. A fully spec'd S3 with leathers, sat nav and bose sound system is a very nice place to be, with the benifit of having the performance to match.

on the other hand the golf in 5dr for offers practicality others just cant match without compromising looks

the biggest problem with E30 to me is its hight. It's like a buss. 

[Rhyso]

lad at work has a Red A3 2.0T Quattro with the Sportline pack - nice looking car and the interior is a class act but it just lacks that certain something 

S3 is not A3 2.0T...

Still, changing from E30 to S3 - to me it seems very strange (unless one REALLY needs a premium hatch).

S3 as a first hot hatch - yes.
S3 as replacement for E30 - waste of money. Get A4 or TTS (different shape, at least).

but the thread is about VW against Audi in general hence why i posted about it and its not very visually different from the S3

i teased the lad in work about it as he paid £22K!! for it!! i told him he could have had a brand new GTI and have change  he wasn't happy about it 

[Peskarik]

But the main thing for me is it isn't just a little better screwed together inside, its loads better. It was 1 of my main gripes with both the mk5 GTi's I had, they are not a cheap car yet the interior in my mind doesn't live up to its price tag. They look nice don't get me wrong but it will be interesting to see how they are holding up in a few years time, not as well as a mk4's is my guess.

I agree. Mine is 20000km and there is a rattle from behind somewhere, I cannot place it. Also, the "moonroof" is rattling when open.

[Peskarik]

lad at work has a Red A3 2.0T Quattro with the Sportline pack - nice looking car and the interior is a class act but it just lacks that certain something 

S3 is not A3 2.0T...

Still, changing from E30 to S3 - to me it seems very strange (unless one REALLY needs a premium hatch).

S3 as a first hot hatch - yes.
S3 as replacement for E30 - waste of money. Get A4 or TTS (different shape, at least).

but the thread is about VW against Audi in general hence why i posted about it and its not very visually different from the S3

In general?
Well, then VW is just nowhere near Audi - RS2, RS4, RS6, TTS, (TTRS). I do not mention S5 because it does not do it for me. But the usual A4 with sport package and 211bhp engine, I see it every day, that is a thing of beauty. 

[Peskarik]

i teased the lad in work about it as he paid £22K!! for it!! i told him he could have had a brand new GTI and have change  he wasn't happy about it 

yeah, it may be dull, the A3, compared to GTI (it definitely is), but he still drives a premium product.
Appearances mean a lot, whatever you may say.

[WhiteGTI]

Pesky - Good point about the financials - Captain Sensible!

RR, I am totally insensible! I have my E30 for a wee bit over a year and I already betray it in my mind by salivating over 335i (saw a montego blue yesterday, I almost came in my breaches  ) and thinking about changing it in a year time. That'll be financial disaster, for sure. 

Stunning colour...

[RedRobin]

....I know I posted the thread title as "vs" (versus) but it wasn't my intention to start off a brand war - Such discussions never reach a conclusion anyway. I was just referring to the S3 comparison with the GTI as they are in some ways rivals.

Btw, I do find that I get more hassle from S3 drivers wanting to 'take me on' than any other car - I'm generalising but some seem to want to prove something. I had a friendly with a black dude in a nice blue S3 which he'd been taking up the quarter-mile at Inters earlier in the year but he responded to my courtesy and it was all very friendly but spirited. His S3 was faster anyway I think - Probably modded and of course quattro traction.

[Peskarik]

Pesky - Good point about the financials - Captain Sensible!

RR, I am totally insensible! I have my E30 for a wee bit over a year and I already betray it in my mind by salivating over 335i (saw a montego blue yesterday, I almost came in my breaches  ) and thinking about changing it in a year time. That'll be financial disaster, for sure. 

Stunning colour...

looks much better than in online catalog, for sure
but my favourite for 335i is dark gray (even though I generally do not care for ubiquitious black, silver, and gray cars), and the 5-spoke BMW 18-inchers.   But these rims do not come with the M-package.   I wonder what this M-package really adds to the car handling ability.