Hurdy, RedRobin, Rob-MK5, other hard-core tuners, I have a question for you.

[Hurdy]

MKII Audi TT - debateable, but easily surpasses any little car that BMW have tried to make = 5

I disagree, there is 135i.

Bugg3r!..forgot about that one

I don't deny that BMW have made some great cars and that Audi is generally still playing catch up, I just thought that your post saying Audi only ever made one good car was a bit of a rash statement

RWD is more fun, but then again in the wet it is more of a handful, and in the UK those wide wheels really do mean tippie toeing around corners. One guy I know loves his BMW's (and he's had quite a few inc M3, 335i and 335d), but even he has a 4x4 waiting in the wings for when it is cold, wet and damp.

[Peskarik]

MKII Audi TT - debateable, but easily surpasses any little car that BMW have tried to make = 5

I disagree, there is 135i.

Bugg3r!..forgot about that one

I don't deny that BMW have made some great cars and that Audi is generally still playing catch up, I just thought that your post saying Audi only ever made one good car was a bit of a rash statement

RWD is more fun, but then again in the wet it is more of a handful, and in the UK those wide wheels really do mean tippie toeing around corners. One guy I know loves his BMW's (and he's had quite a few inc M3, 335i and 335d), but even he has a 4x4 waiting in the wings for when it is cold, wet and damp.

No, I believe AUDI makes fantastic cars across the board for years! Only not really drivers cars.
335i... 
one day Jennifer, like Marty McFly said, one day...

[08micsta]

Let me throw a spanner into the worxs....

IF you wanna talk about a drivers car then we must throw the new Jaguar XF and Jaguar XKR into the picture.

Slightly more expensive but a rival to any M5 or M3. I say this because I did a photoshoot with them and those cars are amazing.

Mike

[Peskarik]

Let me throw a spanner into the worxs....

IF you wanna talk about a drivers car then we must throw the new Jaguar XF and Jaguar XKR into the picture.

Slightly more expensive but a rival to any M5 or M3. I say this because I did a photoshoot with them and those cars are amazing.

Mike

went to look at new XF.
ahh...yeah....gimme 335

[Pirelli_P]

Let me throw a spanner into the worxs....

IF you wanna talk about a drivers car then we must throw the new Jaguar XF and Jaguar XKR into the picture.

Slightly more expensive but a rival to any M5 or M3. I say this because I did a photoshoot with them and those cars are amazing.

Mike

I agree, they are nice and certainly look the part but... i think with a BMW there is such a pedigree, with generations built on advances over the last. Jags history is a little more inconsistant and although the current models are a lot better than previous, i would not pay my own money for one when I could get a BMW and know exactly what i would be getting! What are your thoughts!??

[Peskarik]

What are your thoughts!??

May I? 
I am with ya! 

[BodyThief]

Maybe the latest 3 series are better but I was always underwhelmed by my previous E46 330i Sport. The handling in particular was not as sharp as expected. I like the styling of the 1 series sport though and I'm sure being smaller they would feel more agile.

[R32UK]

The BMW for me every day of the week!!

Although the Rs4 is probably the only one that would make me rethink... a few comments from JC highlighted the fact that most of them are driving by people not liked very much in the motoring world (sorry chrissy!)

[RedRobin]

At our Biali Motorsport meet on sunny Saturday, amongst the cars gathered was a CSL and a RS4. Friend Roy, who used to have a Mk4 R32 and is now running an Audi Avant TDI and is missing petrol, went out in both. I said to him: "Money no object, you have just won the choice of either of these cars completely free of charge, which would you choose?" He thought hard for a couple of moments and then said that the RS4 would be the best allround family car but the CSL was far more exciting and so the BMW is what he would choose. I think the same. But each to their own - They are actually quite different cars.

[Pirelli_P]

They are actually quite different cars.

I agree. You must surely compare the RS4 with the M3 Saloon since they are the comparable cars in terms of refinement, size, body shell, engines etc.

A CSL is a stripped down E46 M3 coupe. It is a completely different animal. It is far more raw, a coupe and not even the current generation 3 series.