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Offline R32UK

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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #20 on: 20 August 2008, 09:17 »
I will be sticking to the old fashioned stick in the middle!

like a proper petrol head :lipsrsealed: :grin:

thats sooooooooooooooo 80's R32uk!!, this is the Technology of today!!!.     :laugh:  :wink:

I know.. I know!! But cant beat a good old tussle with the stick :wink:

Did drive an old 308gtb round a track as well as a 360 modena... and have to say the 308 was defo the more fun! Just cant beat good old fashioned engineering esp when braking from 120 without abs.. soooo much fun!! but obviously at some point new technology will take over... just in this case I think its a shame :undecided:

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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #21 on: 20 August 2008, 09:33 »
....It took me nearly 20,000 miles before I even started to use the paddles, SO8. I had a block in my mind that they were tiny plastic thingys and didn't feel tactile enough. I was totally wrong and now I use them exactly when I would use a floor stick in a gate but with faultless accuracy and speed. They're even better for the twisties when you need both hands on the wheel.

As you already know, DSG in town is perfect and you can always use a paddle to override temporarily - I'm so used to thinking manually and using the paddles that I sometimes override D-mode by mistake.

Same with me Robin. I'm so used to the paddles that even in D mode I override the shifts automatically! Love the DSG.

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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #22 on: 20 August 2008, 09:35 »
I tried 2 DSG's and didnt take to it unfortunately. Although it is better than normal autos. For me it takes away from the driving experience, as I enjoy being able to choose when my gear changes are made. Although many will argue that you can do the same with DSG, it just seems that its to easy to stick it in D and drive. Lazyness does eventually kick in :undecided:

I wouldnt rule it out in the future.. but whilst i am young and able..... I will be sticking to the old fashioned stick in the middle!

like a proper petrol head :lipsrsealed: :grin:

....I was lazy for the first 10k miles and just used to pop from D to S mode for overtakes and twisties. Now I drive her with a manual mindset 95% of the time and just use D for urban and traffic jams. That's one of the great things about DSG - It offers different options. But not everybody takes to it - It's all in the mind. You would expect me at 61yo with over 40 years driving to reject DSG.
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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #23 on: 20 August 2008, 09:45 »
As you already know, DSG in town is perfect and you can always use a paddle to override temporarily - I'm so used to thinking manually and using the paddles that I sometimes override D-mode by mistake.

Same with me Robin. I'm so used to the paddles that even in D mode I override the shifts automatically! Love the DSG.

....And I thought I was the only one to do that! :laugh: Even when that happens, being already in D, the DSG reverts to D after about 30 seconds after each manual paddleshift if you leave the stick in D.

Sometimes at a busy junction from a standstill, I will pop into D for the start-off to gain smoothness followed by a paddleshift to 2nd gear and then quickly shift the floor stick back to M and continue in a manual mindset.
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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #24 on: 20 August 2008, 13:38 »
As you already know, DSG in town is perfect and you can always use a paddle to override temporarily - I'm so used to thinking manually and using the paddles that I sometimes override D-mode by mistake.

Same with me Robin. I'm so used to the paddles that even in D mode I override the shifts automatically! Love the DSG.

....And I thought I was the only one to do that! :laugh: Even when that happens, being already in D, the DSG reverts to D after about 30 seconds after each manual paddleshift if you leave the stick in D.

Sometimes at a busy junction from a standstill, I will pop into D for the start-off to gain smoothness followed by a paddleshift to 2nd gear and then quickly shift the floor stick back to M and continue in a manual mindset.

Yup. Or you can click the right paddle and hold it for a few seconds to revert back to D mode.

I do it the other way around sometimes- start of in M mode so that I can hold a gear longer (to change lanes etc.) then click the lever over to the right and continue in D. So many options  :smiley:

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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #25 on: 20 August 2008, 13:55 »
Thought I'd stick my two penneth in!!

Having driven DSG in Audi's, GTI's and an R32 I can concur with my honourable gentlemen that it is indeed the greatest gearbox mankind has ever produced!!

However, it's not for me. On every occasion I have used a DSG, once the initial excitment over the paddles has eased I just find my self driving everywhere in D. And me being of the lazy variety I could see this being the ongoing theme. So for me it's the 'purist's' ( :grin:) choice as it's alot to invest in something that wouldn't be used to it's full potential.

Good luck with your choice, im sure you'll be more than happy with whatever decision you make!  :smiley:

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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #26 on: 20 August 2008, 14:10 »
DSG....I lurrrve it, it is amazing.  It is involving when you want it to be and quiet when you can't be arsed.

Only thing that concerns me is the longevity of the DSG units, I intend to keep my 55 plate for a few years, probably the next 4 or 5...I am kacking my pants about a major failure and a ridiculous cost to replace/ fix. 

I would bet my fears are unfounded statistically, someone will probably quote any number of high mileage boxes they have heard of, however one does wonder if they will stand the true test of time.....£5k for a new box, or is that an urban myth.... :undecided:

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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #27 on: 20 August 2008, 14:20 »
DSG....I lurrrve it, it is amazing.  It is involving when you want it to be and quiet when you can't be arsed.

Only thing that concerns me is the longevity of the DSG units, I intend to keep my 55 plate for a few years, probably the next 4 or 5...I am kacking my pants about a major failure and a ridiculous cost to replace/ fix. 

I would bet my fears are unfounded statistically, someone will probably quote any number of high mileage boxes they have heard of, however one does wonder if they will stand the true test of time.....£5k for a new box, or is that an urban myth.... :undecided:

....I really believe that you need not be quite so concerned. I wish I could lay my hands on or remember the info details but it was saying that the DSG box is essentially the same as the Manual gearbox except for having two clutches and a control module. The important thing is to do regular maintenance and change the DSG oil+filter as recommended. The box has so many self-protective safeguards against misuse.

Enjoy DSG and Think Positive!
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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #28 on: 20 August 2008, 14:37 »
 :smiley: of course, Guess I am just a little nervous right now, cos the Tech who did my mot (It flew through BTW) found a slight oil sweat from the box and my warranty expires early next month.

It's going in with the stealer next week for a check, TT reckons it could potentially just be an overspill of oil from the last service.  Having said that someone on MK-VIs reckoned they had an oil leak that required an internal seal fitted.  Apart from the Audi boys questioning their reliability I have not read that much negative about the dsg box to back up my fears, so as you say remain positive and enjoy the drive.

Actually didnt mean to thread hijack, so right on topic now....Go Try A DSG FIRST!! :) Flawless, speedy, changes and with a milltek.., tunnel drive, windows down...phwoaaarr!  :evil:


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Re: Should I try a DSG first ?
« Reply #29 on: 20 August 2008, 14:50 »
Had a drive in my mates 07 TT 3.2 DSG at the weekend so I’m no longer a DSG virgin!!

I was very impressed at how easy it was to get used to going down the gears with the left hand and up with the right, I actually felt fairly confident after only a few minutes of driving, obviously it's trickier for a newbee when maneuvering at low speeds in a car park etc and I found myself looking down at the stick a lot to get it into R and manual modes but obviously knowing your way around the gear lever would become second nature after a while. I did slam my left foot on the brake pedal by mistake at crawling speed, when looking for the clutch pedal out of habit, causing us both to shoot forward onto our seat belts! So you definitely have to 'unlearn' some habits.

After about half an hour of driving I was still unsure whether I preferred it to a manual. I was definitely not getting the best out of the 3.2 and was staying in 1st gear longer than I would normally when setting of, but once driving it felt unbelievably smooth. And that is what I didn't like about it, it almost felt like I was driving the TT with the controls from a Playstation and I felt totally disconnected from the engine. I also can't remember if the ECU blips the throttle on downshifts which is something I would be looking for in a semi-manual to make it more interesting.

Another problem I have with it is, as R32UK says, I think the novelty of using the paddles would wear off and end up using it in D or S most of the time. Don't get me wrong, I think it’s a brilliant system but I think I'll need a few more drives in one before I would consider it in my next car.

Isn’t an upcoming version of the DSG going to have 7 speeds? Or have I dreamt that…
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