0-60 times golf3 20 8v

[trustno1]

told ya lads.......... told ya..........  

[jte]

He's only 19 blah blah blah

Can't get insurance blah blah blah

WTF is that supposed to mean??? U think I USE that as an EXCUSE???  U REALLY THINK THAT?

HOW OLD R U?.... *EDIT* 21 .. 21!! I bought my car when I was 18 FFS I wanted a GTI, I wanted another VW I wanted quality .. I paid what my car was worth, I paid my extorsionate insurance premium ... u come here acting all big and bad with ya VR6 woooo Ive got a VR6 cos its engine size makes up for my p?n!s size...   k!ss my a$$

What did u drive when u were 18? ...

Woah, easy tiger.  You missed the wink!

I respect you for getting a decent car so young, i had a sh!t car till i was 20.  (Renault 19)

I did't get a VR6 to make up for my thingy size, i got one because the 16v was SO SLOW!

[Cupra Turbo]

Soz man .. I was on my period or summet that day  

[Pimpster]

Hey, dont nobody stop!!!!

This is far better than stalling cars and broken electric windows.

The 8v is slow. the 16v is pokey and the VR6 is fast.

How can we call a car that has trouble getting rid of Saxo VTR's, Fiesta 1.4's, Peugeot 106 xsi and Focus 1.6 call itself fast?!

END.OF.STORY.

[Cupra Turbo]

Focus 1.6  = 11secs
Saxo VTR = Made of tin foil & selotape
Fiesta 1.4 = What u on?
106 XSI = 105bhp, lightweight, tin foil ... what d'ya expect?

16v cant beat these to 60...

106 GTI, Saxo VTS, Astra 1.8 SRI, Citroen AX GT,

VR6 cant beat these

Clio 172, Clio 182, 206 GTI 180, Civic Type R,


... jeez ... (except the AX) ive listed new cars ... the GTI mk3 was created in 1991 and probably designed in 1989 ... ITS OLD ...  of course newer cars that are made of plastercine are faster ... theres f*ck all to them

Theres many new cars faster than the 16v ... is that SLOW?

What about the VR6?  get beat by Clios and 206's!! ...

But u all forget ... the GOLF isnt all about SPEED ... its about COMFORT, BUILD and STYLE.

Does a Fiesta look nice (sory Vix) .. NO ... does a AX GT? NO  ... nuff said.
jeez...

[golfvr6]

Whats the 0-60 of the clio 172 and 206 gti 180?
I doubt they are alot better than 7 sec.

[Cupra Turbo]

Clio 172 - 7.0
Clio 172 Cup - 6.7
Clio 182 - 6.9
Peugeot 206 GTI 180 - 7.2

.. now yes, not alot faster than the VR6 (7.4secs) ... and thats the same as a VTR compared to a mk3 8v.

All depends on the driver when ya talking a few tenths of seconds!

right 6?

[golfvr6]

I have seen the vr6 quoted as low as 7 seconds, so i doubt there is any difference between any of them.
As you say not bad for a car that was first released in 1992.
How would those same cars compare with the latest vr6 engine in the mk4 cars?  very little in it.

[Cupra Turbo]

Golf mk4 V6 4Motion 204bhp - 6.9secs

and thats a HEAVY car... 1350kg est.

.. but yes... people are comparing old to new.

the mk3 is an OLD car ... 1992 ffs... and the engine wasnt "too" bad ... 10secs.. not bad for those who couldnt afford the higher premiums.

now tho engines are more efficient etc ... just look at the new FSI engines

1.6 FSI Golf = 115bhp
2.0 mk3 GTI = 115bhp

... now your gonna say.. hahaha my 16v has 150bhp.

mk3 gti 16v = 150bhp
Clio 182 = 182bhp
Peugeot GTI = 180bhp
Civic Type R = 197bhp

.. all 2.0 16v engines.

VR6 mk3 = 174bhp
V6 mk4 = 204bhp

things move on ... just the mk3 gained weight over the mk2 just like the mk2 gained weight over the mk1

mk1 1.8 112bhp - 8.9secs
mk2 1.8 112bhp - 9.7secs
mk3 2.0 115bhp - 10.2secs
mk4 2.0 115bhp - 10.5secs

... all roughly the same power, but just gained weight.... but what DID they all have at the time they were released?

better reliability, style, comfort etc than the other cars of their genre (size etc)

mk4 Golf Vs Focus ..
mk3 Golf Vs Xsara
mk2 Golf Vs Astra mk2
mk1 Golf Vs ... dunno... sorry... Capri?

Golf wins cos its a BETTER car... nevermind speed... its a BETTER car

[Pimpster]

oh i just love the wind up! - glad you picked the old fiesta out Black!!!

My point is that theres no point saying 'oh yeah this 0-60 is fast' whether its 9 or 10 secs, because anything over 9 secs is pretty average to below average. In fact everyone agrees VW lost the plot with the MK3 GTI in 8v form. I like it cost it costs me bugger all to run and doesnt depreciate that much. I certainly dont like its performance, or lack of.

You point out new cars that could beat it but there were plenty of rivals from 1991 that could beat an 8v golf gti - escort xr3i, fiesta xr2i, AX GT (i had one - it was sh!te - and yes a 16v could beat it to 60), Peugeot 205gti, Peugeot 205 xs...


And for info Black - most new cars are heavier than the ones from 10 years ago - hence the average hot hatch requiring 170bhp+ to be called hot....

comfort - yeah
build - yeah (kinda when they arent stalling...)
style - depends on the times - it is old after all.

REPEAT AFTER ME - IT IS NOT FAST, IT IS NOT FAST, IT IS NOTTTTzzzzzz