How's the Milltek Hurdy?

[RedRobin]

i read all this and thing, frontwheel driveeeeeeeee.... surely being fwd means cornerin is always going to understeer? seamslike you lot are spending a lot.

....Even if understeer can be controlled (the GTI chassis is excellent), loads of neddies at the front wheels is bound to have adverse traction/grip effects. That's why I'm very happy to stay at Stage1 (GTI, not Ed30) for fast and practical road driveability.

[gazbutmk5gti]

Hadn't planned on it, Dean did mention something about it but not sure what is happening yet. They are yet to call me and tell me what they plan to do with the map but last time we spoke it was Stage 2, not sure if fuel pump is a necessity with this however?   

....I'm fairly sure that an aftermarket fuel pump is only needed for Stage3 but, of course, Awesome will be able to advise better. It will definitely be dependent on your remap's instructions about fuelling.

Speaking to the APR boffins yesterday, the fuel pump is going to form part of the stage 2 package along with TBE and possibly intercooler, the're not sure if its going to required for our climate as the standard one is pretty good.
They have a 54 plate regular GTi with K04 turbo bolted on(same as ED30) and its makin 340bhp with the fuel pump, map and exhaust.
As redrobin says Awesomes car is a rolling advert so alot of the bits are overkill, espcially the Lambo doors, although I know the mk5 regularly sees track action.
I should have more details later regarding the fuel pump etc., and will post details and maybe a mini review of their demo car, but I will say it goes like stink.

[john_o]

this is all good stuff ,  which brings up my question ...

Re : APR Stage 2 +
I still dont quite understand why the std GTI's have fuel cut issues at stage2+ at lower rpm and NEED a fuel pump.
Whereas the ED30 's run fine at 300bhp with bigger injectors (S3) but the same rail pump?

I would have expected the Ed30 to have the same issue.

For me Stage2 APR + Milltek is a calling......
Popped into Awesome myself on Saturday for a look too 

Re : Intercooler
The comments kinda go against the other info Ive seen
It also doesnt explain why the S3 has a larger IC with 265bhp? I dont see why Audi would build in this much headroom in an IC as if its not needed , it only serves to increase lag
But hey , if I dont need a twincooler or S3 IC then fab 

maybe for another thread but for ED30 I though the first 'weakpoint' in terms of power was the I/C

[Peskarik]

what's 12-pot?  :embarassed:

How much power is enough people???  It is FWD, don't forget!

[RedRobin]

what's 12-pot?  :embarassed:

How much power is enough people???  It is FWD, don't forget!

....12-pot refers to the number of hydraulically activated pistons within the brake caliper. My AP Racing kit has 4 and is proven to be more than adequate for fast road use. I've forgotten how many the standard GTI brake has - 3 ?? The theory is that the more even the braking pressure on the disc is, the better.

I reckon that around 280 bhp on FWD is plenty enough if you want to preserve road driveability. Just my opinion.

[Hurdy]

300bhp and better suspension and brakes over standard is what I will be happy with

I must say though it is the crispness of the throttle response since I've had all the parts fitted that really enthuses me It is more like having a large CC N/A engine now ...err...without the V6/V8 soundtrack though . The Milltek sounds great though. Enjoy

[SteveS]

they look really good. much nicer looking than standard ones... sounds good too

well done 

[gazbutmk5gti]

this is all good stuff ,  which brings up my question ...

Re : APR Stage 2 +
I still dont quite understand why the std GTI's have fuel cut issues at stage2+ at lower rpm and NEED a fuel pump.
Whereas the ED30 's run fine at 300bhp with bigger injectors (S3) but the same rail pump?

I would have expected the Ed30 to have the same issue.

For me Stage2 APR + Milltek is a calling......
Popped into Awesome myself on Saturday for a look too 



Re : Intercooler
The comments kinda go against the other info Ive seen
It also doesnt explain why the S3 has a larger IC with 265bhp? I dont see why Audi would build in this much headroom in an IC as if its not needed , it only serves to increase lag
But hey , if I dont need a twincooler or S3 IC then fab 

maybe for another thread but for ED30 I though the first 'weakpoint' in terms of power was the I/C

I asked this myself, they seem to think VW made some changes regarding software and the fuelling issues, which is why no probs with remapped ED30's.
I understand your questions regarding the S3's larger intercooler and would suggest again its down to the S3 having to run in much warmer climates than ours aswell. They still really aren't sure weather a larger 1 is needed for ED30 stage 2 and its something their still working on, personally although its expensive I'd like 1 just for peace of mind.

Dean from Awesome just rang and they want to keep my car a bit longer as they have found some interesting stuff and finding good gains, apparantly there are a few differences between the ED30 and S3 engines, compression ratio for 1, and they want to play some more.
Its a real shame looks like I'll have to keep their demo car a bit longer

[Hurdy]

Hmm..sounds like you will be spending some money then

[john_o]

cheers Gaz , I'm very close to getting the remap when I can get time off work. may just jump to Stage 2

Surprised you say the compression ratio is diff S3 vs ED30 , as I though they were identical engine wise only diff was IC and boost levels!

why you answering forum questions when you should be driving the demo   hard life