8V OR 16V ??

[golf-gti-matt]

IM 19, got 2 years ncb, 3 points. To insure the 2.0 gti 8v and a mg metro turbo on a joint policy with admiral is £1500

[saul79]

16 v is hydraulic

[saul79]

just wait till ur older it will get better lol

[tim145tim]

as far as i know yes its the head of the engine thats different, everything else is the same...

obviously they will sound different but my 8v daily hack sounds anything but harsh

as for the clutch mech, cant comment on this i think they were different at certain years, sure someone will know...but come on that is just clutching at staws, my 8v has a different engine code to some other 8vs, means naff all...

but yeah the rest of the car is supposed to be more or less the same, even says so in the original GTI catalogue i have in my hand right now...

P.s...i wasnt on about performance figures, the only reason i posted on this waste of time thread was because i just thought a few things needed pointing out

everyone with half of brain knows a 16v is alot faster than the 8v, they will feel different to drive for sure, but in reality not than many things are different between the two...

but owning both and living with both (including driving both) feels like a completely different car in most ways...

just trying to be accurate to help our vdub virgin... he needs to drive both i think.

[saul79]

id get a 16v or vr6 over an 8v -depends how much you wanna pay for insurance .if you start with a bigger engine its better,cos the insurance goes down a lot more i found anyways

[kells]

but owning both and living with both (including driving both) feels like a completely different car in most ways...

just trying to be accurate to help our vdub virgin... he needs to drive both i think.

i know matey, iv driven both so i know what your saying, they do feel different, very different, i was just making a valid point, im not trying to say they feel the same to drive...

i only got 8v as its my second car, but tbh i think the 8v will be replaced with a 20vt at some point, unless i get a evo that is....

[vdub virgin]

Hey tim! dnt turn it round to me!lol!
i was merly curious to other peoples opinions on 8v n 16v
i havnt driven an 8v volks,but driven 8v n 16v vauxhalls n found that 8vs pull better bottom end and 16vs betta top end,n 16vs just feel more solid n reliable,
jst my opinion!lol!

[al_bey]

Cable change gearshift on the 8v?
isnt the clutch on the 16v hydraulic?

well to drive they are completely different ....

steering completley different ,

gearchange FEELS completely different...

8v sounds harsh
16v sounds powerful...

theres a difference....

also

8v .... 0-60 in 10.3 seconds
16v.... 0-60 in 8.0 seconds

big difference...

Maybe its just mine feels different with the 205/50/ r16 anniversary splits as theyr wider and bigger?



So Kells....

The only difference on the entire car is the simple fact its a 16v top not an 8v?

same brakes?
steering rack?
radiator?
suspension?
gearbox?
clutch?
exhaust?

same everything apart form engine your saying?

The 8V doesnt do it in 10.3 seconds, it does it in 9.8 seconds 
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=1015

I wanted to get a 16V but my insurance is 900 now and im 23. Fully Comp tho.

The reason it's that much tho is because ive only being driving since july. I previously drove a renault clio 1.4rt that was insured with tesco. When i bought my GTI they said they wouldn't insure me on it due to the fact i'd been driving under a year.

[tim145tim]

Sorry i was only going by vw for the 10.3.... good to hear the 8v can make it in under 10.

Have you tried elephant for the insurance mate?

[boneybradley]

The only difference on the entire car is the simple fact its a 16v top not an 8v?

same brakes?  yes...280mm front discs on both till 95 and then 288mm
steering rack?   yes..both have the varible weighted rack
radiator?         ...some do and some dont...mix and match at vw again
suspension?    ...same on both
gearbox?      ...different box and ratio's..16v has lower mid gears
clutch?    ...hydraulic for 16v and cable clutch on 8v
exhaust?   ...larger bore on the 16v

i believe the 8v is better for crusing as you dont need to rev the engine as hard and the 16v much better for performance... the 0-60 times show that

Oh i drove both and prefered the 8v and it's lazy engine... Before i bought this one i had another 8v and i test drove a 16v for a week!! and i still prefer the 8v.

and finally the mk4 2.0 8v does 0-60 in 10.3seconds and is the slowest golf gti built!!