R32 V's New Focus RS

[maxamus]

Fooook CO2 emissions   

[Hurdy]

Fooook CO2 emissions   

In that case I'll wish for the R8 engine in the MKVI R42

400+bhp and 4wd with V8 pleeeaase Mr VW

[maxamus]

Fooook CO2 emissions   

In that case I'll wish for the R8 engine in the MKVI R42

400+bhp and 4wd with V8 pleeeaase Mr VW

It took them two decades to recapture the MK1 GTI goodness in the MK5 GTI.
VW have a lot to live upto!
I think they will not dissapoint as VAG Group have really pushed the boundaries in the last few years (Veyron, R8, LP640 helping Porsche with the GT1 developement etc)

[jonathonturner]

cant beat a bit of brand loyalty eh?

25000 is cheap for this car if thats what it costs..there will no production golf that will come close, in terms of handling or performance..interior finish will be good and it will be as reliable if not more so than any r32 or gti...

these are facts by the way...

you dont have to buy one, jut dont be pissed of when you get blown away by one.

How do you know its better handling and better performance than the R32?
And how do you know its got a good interior and as reliable as a GTI or R32?

At the moment there is only a press statement from Ford. No one has actually seen or test driven one so your basing your comments on what?


PS its not getting launched till 2009

mate, have you even been in a st focus? they are well built, reliable and drive very well indeed..and thats just the 'old' focus..
my point is this...ford are on there game, like it or not, and they will produce a car that does the business.

as for my opinion on there not being a golf that will come near in handling or performance, i am fairly confident....vw havent won that many world rally chamionships that i can remember? Same people responsable for fords rally success are responsible for the new focus...

ford have said they are competing at the level of mitsu evo and subaru wrx, so my bet is they are faily serious...and that is a very different level indeed to that of a r32/r36

time will tell i suppose.

Oh, and i drive a golf...its a great car, but it is what it is...

[indublin]

There is supposed to be a W12 here in Dublin! I havn't seen it myself but I have a friend who said some Guy was driving round in a white badged W12 which he had brought in from Germany. This could be an e-bay special tho!

[Hurdy]

There is supposed to be a W12 here in Dublin! I havn't seen it myself but I have a friend who said some Guy was driving round in a white badged W12 which he had brought in from Germany. This could be an e-bay special tho!

I'll bet it is someone with a W12 badge off Ebay

W12 concept was a one off car and from what Jezza Clarkson says, not very good at going round corners

[indublin]

Guy had the bonet poped and the guy told me it was a huge engine!

[Hurdy]

Guy had the bonet poped and the guy told me it was a huge engine!

Definitely not the concept one then as that has the engine behind the front seats.

If the bloke said it has a W12 engine in the front

1. Would it actually fit?
2. Would it handle with that weight up front?

There is only just enough room for a V6 engine let alone the equivalent of two.

[AlanD]

I highly doubt he had a W12 in the front.

Also how funny was Jezza in that W12 ......... and his spun ........... again

On the topic of W12, check out this nuttah from Croatia. His stuck 2 (yes thats TWO) V6 engines in his Lupo which makes it a W12 in my eyes. Its mental stuff. I know its long, but worth every page !

http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=69918

:edit: - You might need to me a member of E38 to view, if your not you might as well sign up.

[R32UK]

So a new fast ford eh?? To take on the Evo's and Subarus?? Dont make me laugh!!

Would i change my R32 for one?? I dont think so!! So why are we even comparing the 2?? Well the obvious comparisons have to be made I guess. But as far as I am concerned the Ford is every reason why I chose the Golf, and just makes me even happier I got one... especially when I see that "oooh look at me" styling. Its a very different car to the R32 and I have no doubt I will drive very differently too, as we established when comparing the R32 + Ed30. Turbo's and NA engines are miles apart when looking at the way they deliver power.

Well done Ford for having the pingpongs to do it! Will it help to stop your already dwindling profits?? probably not. i think the hot hatch crazy guys generally dont want to spend 20k+ on something thats simply just fast. Family commitments and other factors (such as SHAME) set in as you start to get to that price. I just prefer something with a little more class.