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Offline iball

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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #50 on: 16 March 2004, 08:25 »
didnt sum1 say u cant compare using weights and graphs.

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But if u wanna.. then try this

Mk3 16v 150Bhp = 8.7secs
Mk4 1.8t 150Bhp = 8.5secs


The mk4 is heavier...............and faster!

Did you not read anything I wrote? Mk3 16v AS TESTED BY EVO 0-60 7.6 secs. I also used to own a Mk3 8v and like I said it was never capable of getting to 60 in less than 10 seconds and was not as quick as a VTR. You quote the Mondeo 2.0 as being 0-60 in 9.8 but that's still quicker than the 8v which is 10.? if not more.

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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #51 on: 16 March 2004, 09:47 »


black_gti... do you know a VTR from a 'Furio' ?  :D


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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #52 on: 16 March 2004, 13:56 »
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You quote the Mondeo 2.0 as being 0-60 in 9.8 but that's still quicker than the 8v which is 10.? if not more.

U wanna use quotes from magazines??

Ok

Whatcar - mk4 8v = 9.0secs (mk3 must be quicker then)
Parkers - mk3 8v = 9.8secs


I gave VW quotes earlier ...

Mk4 150Bhp = 8.5
Mk3 16v = 8.7

Heres a nice QUOTE for u

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Mk3 Golf 8V '91-98

History/Spec

The all new Golf arrived in 1992, and was promptly christened 'Car of the Year' -- but not 'Hot Hatch of the Year'. That's because it was bigger, safer and heavier. Despite that blobby body being very slippery, with a drag factor between 0.30 and 0.33, it was seriously heavy. The original GTI weighed 844 kg, and the MK3 was up to 1032 kg. The power-to weight ratio had slipped from 133 bhp per ton to 113. That translated into a top speed of 124 mph and a sluggish 0-60 mph time of 8.7 seconds -surprising, as the new GTI had a larger 2.0-Jitre engine with Digifant multipoint electronic fuel injection system and regulated catalytic converter. With an enlarged bore and stroke at 82.5 mm and 92.8 mm respectively, the output rose to 115 bhp at 5400 rpm. At least it looked the part, with its color-coded two-bar grille, black wheel arches and bumper extension, rear spoiler, tinted rear light clusters, 6.5Jxl 5 in Long Beach alloys and twin exhaust pipes. Inside came sports seats, electric windows, on board computer and height-adjustable sports steering wheel. Handling-wise it was a lot softer and more refined. Basically, it was a modified Mk2 set-up with standard power steering. From September 1992 came split rear seats and, a year later, passenger seat height adjustment formed part of the package. October 1994 was safety month, as ABS brakes, driver's airbag and immobilizer were included -- but a sunroof became a cost option. July 1995 saw the arrival of rounded side indicators and a bee-sting aerial. May 1996 marked the 20th anniversary of the GTI, hence the 600 unit limited-edition Anniversary, with red alloys and traditional golf ball gear knob. King of the limited editions though was the Color Concept, in April 1995, available in yellow, red, blue or green, with matching leather Recaros, silver-faced instruments and 6.5 in Solitude alloys. Eight-valve deleted in November 1997.
« Last Edit: 16 March 2004, 13:58 by Black_GTI »

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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #53 on: 16 March 2004, 14:17 »
nice quote? they slagged teh 8v off in teh paragraph after...  i posted it in another thread.


btw.. do you know what a furio is yet?
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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #54 on: 16 March 2004, 14:33 »
yes, its a saxo and it has body coloured bump strips ... i think

1.4 i think...
« Last Edit: 16 March 2004, 14:34 by Black_GTI »

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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #55 on: 16 March 2004, 14:35 »
sort of.

its a 1.4 but its got full VTR trim.. so it might look fast, but it aint.

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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #56 on: 16 March 2004, 14:36 »
I want a VR6. I really want a VR6. I can't stop thinking about the VR6. I am torn between the Golf mkiii VR6 and the corrado VR6. I qualify at university in july as a diagnostic radiographer - so will be getting job with nhs. The course is really hard at times and the only thing that keeps me going is the thought of getting a VR6. My very own VR6. Bet they are spanking to drive. Can't wait.

Two dilemma's. Which VR6 (golf or corrado) and what do I do with my beloved mkii. Can't be worth alot with 200000 miles on clock. Any ideas.

How much should I pay for a good VR6 ?

In my opinion there is absolutely no choice, the Corrado is much better!  I'm actually looking for a G60 Corrado myself ;D

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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #57 on: 16 March 2004, 14:41 »
I was thinkin about a corrado, but a woman over the road (old nuff to be mah mum) has a vr6 one.. would be all too weird. lol
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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #58 on: 16 March 2004, 15:26 »
U wanna use quotes from magazines??

Ok

Whatcar - mk4 8v = 9.0secs (mk3 must be quicker then)
Parkers - mk3 8v = 9.8secs


I gave VW quotes earlier ...

Mk4 150Bhp = 8.5
Mk3 16v = 8.7

Heres a nice QUOTE for u




Look dip sh1t I'm not interested in getting into an argument with you about how slow your car is. That quote you make, as someone pointed out, slags the 8v off.

And yes I do like using quotes from magazines, but I prefer to ensure that the quotes I use are based on something other than a guestimate. You'll note again that IF you'd read what I wrote, the figures I noted from Evo were AS TESTED, once again for you if you're struggling to read that I said AS TESTED. This means they actually got in the car, strapped on some timing gear and found out for themselves what the 0-60 was. I normally quote Evo figures as generally they have actually TESTED the cars. You however appear to thumb through as many magazines as you can until you find the quickest time? I've seen the 8v quoted as 10 secs+ for it's 0-60 and having owned one I don't reckon that's to far off!

The point people are trying to make is that a Furio looks like a VTR. You probably raced a furio and kept up with it but thought it was a VTR!! Though I find that hard to believe as a Furio is probably quicker as well!!!!!
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Re:VR6 is slower than I thought???
« Reply #59 on: 16 March 2004, 20:16 »
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The point people are trying to make is that a Furio looks like a VTR. You probably raced a furio and kept up with it but thought it was a VTR!! Though I find that hard to believe as a Furio is probably quicker as well!!!!!

VTR wrote on its bump strip doesnt give it away huh?

Dont call me dipsh!t u tw@t ...  whatcar TESTED.. TESTED.. TESTED... TESTED ... TESTED... TESTED ... f**k want me to repeat it again? TESTED.. TESTED... TESTED the mk4 GTI 8v and quoted... QUOTED.. QUOTED 9.0secs ...

hang on... ill write the quote out for u ... as u find it difficult to read.

VW GOLF MK4 2.0 GTI 3dr - PERFORMANCE (WC? test figures quoted in bold)

0-60mph sec - 9.0


QUOTED IN BOLD... for the mk4.


Go buy the mag... read it ... realise. I dont care what u THINK is the 0-60 times ... thats the OFFICIAL QUOTE of WC?

and the mk4 8v is slower than the mk3 8v ...

« Last Edit: 16 March 2004, 20:27 by Black_GTI »

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