Im sorry but how many 17 year olds do you know that drive a ctr? A group 17 insurance car, costing £17k new with high running costs.....i sure dont know any, nor have i ever seen any chavs driving one (unless mr finance gave them a hand!)
Its funny how all forums have people who have their blinkers on and a sign saying 'my car is the best in the world!'. Each hothatch in the market at the mo has something different to offer for people i.e.;
gti - comfort, build quality
ctr - reliability, high revving n/a engine
vxr - handling, torque engine
st - noise, speed prospects
etc etc
Its interesting to see what people on each forum do go for and its generaly something similar to their own current car. I would go for the 197 myself as its n/a and looks great fun (definatly if they do a cup version!)
Every hothatch at the moment is great in some area and its these key points that sway people to spend their money, i get the feeling from some of these posts their are some snobbish people on here, the guy who thinks the st owner was thinking he had a gti is laughable, those 2.5 engines are capable of much higher power than the gti. I have driven both the gti and st and i found the st felt much better to drive, amazing noise and the engine felt great - my opinion though.
This could be a good thread if there were not such immature posts (people) in it, amusing how you mock the ctr and its chavvy image and yet many people on the ctr forum quite often say how good the gti is - which one would somene who had just joined think was the chavviest?