Why Don't You Mod?....

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I actually think that hiding it is a good policy

Why on earth do you think that! 

That statement must be THE most stupidest thing ever posted on GolfGTIforum !!! 

Not very good with the English language then mate?

English language may not my strongest attribute, but I don't think I'm too bad.  It does, however, show you have to stoop so low to the gutter, in trying to exert your indefensable comments.

However, I am a very highly qualified Motor Vehicle Technician, and a very experienced "spanner monkey" too.  So I think I'm just slightly better positioned to voice my opinion, compared to you. 

I am also lead to believe other regular members of this, and other fourms, appreciate that my posts are based on valuble experience and knowledge, and that I am generally trustworthy, and don't post bollox.  Or maybe my specticles are the wrong shade?

Oh, and I don't know where you got the idea from that I was your "mate"!

Well opinions are like assholes and some stink,

You should know, because it appears you like burying your head up your own ar$ehole, when you don't want to listen or accept what others have to say! 

but my point was that if you don't go blowing or showing, at the very least the Stealer is not going to get a whiff of the fact the car has been played or tinkered with.

WRONG - the stealer WILL know the car has been "tampered" with.  Just like the stealer will be able to detect if non-VW approved engine oil is used.

Can I suggest you remove those very restrictive blinkers you appear to be wearing.  They really are only meant for creatures which have an extremely limited intelligence, such as horses.

That is worth something to a lot more than just me.

Explain.

I am going to be doing some research in to this when time allows as I am keen to map my car, but rather than deal with heresay from someone off a car forum, I would prefer to deal with fact.

So, where to you propose to get your "facts" from, then? 

I also plan to see what GIAC have to see about some of your comments to see if there is any truth in them.

And . . . we all await with baited breath.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

but my point was that if you don't go blowing or showing, at the very least the Stealer is not going to get a whiff of the fact the car has been played or tinkered with. That is worth something to a lot more than just me.

....You are, of course, entitled to think and do as you please but just because there are a lot of others (according to you) who would hide "the fact the car has been played or tinkered with" it doesn't make doing so a wise course of action. The words "played or tinkered with" say it all and it's people like you with such attitudes which understandably make VW's attempts to give us good service more difficult.

Do you also advocate hiding "the fact the car has been played or tinkered with" from your insurer? What's the betting?....

Well said Robin.  Very mature and appropriate comments.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

"People in glass houses" and all that    "heresay" is actually "hearsay" 

Not very good with the English language then mate? The most stupidest is it?! 

Sweet revenge!  Well-spotted, thanks.

[RedRobin]

Can I suggest you remove those very restrictive blinkers you appear to be wearing.  They really are only meant for creatures which have an extremely limited intelligence, such as horses.

....Very much off topic (I think! ) but having worked with and befriended horses for many years I can say that their 'intelligence' is sometimes astounding. Donkeys, on the other hand....

I totally see the reason for comparison though, T_T

[Dangerous Dave No2]

TT - Think your services may be required on cupra.net!

www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=137823

I haven't got time to slave away on another forum!

However, can you ask them to edit the original post, and give me credit for the comments, and also post the full URL (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=62109.0).

Moving onto post #4, a UK code may have been sent to the US - but which code, from which engine, from which model year, from which manufacturer software revision ??  Then there is the issue that US fuel is very different from ours.  And finally, how the fcuk can they properly rolling road test their so called "UK" maps on a US spec car, with US fuels.  I rest my case, your honour!

I am the post of post 4 in answer to the question the ECU code was for a Leon Cupra one of the first UK 2L TFSI models.  The code was sent the US tweaked sent back and map tested on the UK car on the rollers and on the road and datalogged and the map sent back for more tweaking this was over the period of a week or two I beleave.  As you say impossible to road test in US, now the main point to be made at the time (may even still be the case) there was not a factory VAG car that has the engine/turbo combination in the USA so how as you state can GIAC use USA code for it ??

Also the GIAC map that is provided for the 185 model was developed using the dealers own UK demo car.

My car is standard so not really a issue for me, I would just like some proof from what you stating, if you have it fair enough but lets see it.

[djhorace]

Thanks for the nice warm welcome and for listening to points of view different from your own one. It is good to see that input from all is welcomed and appraised constructively here rather than just ripping it to bits.

Unfortunately I do not have the time to bother engaging myself in to such trivial banter, and even if I did, I am not sure that I could be arsed as it would clearly fall on deaf ears.

What I am looking forward to however is the evidence that backs the claim that US based tuners use US code on UK cars and that this code causes premature and excessive wear on the engine. I will be forwarding this link on to Regal this afternoon and will be interested in their response.

FYI, after a quick phone call earlier, part of the initial response from Regal was "...the people saying these things no doubt very much pro Revo...". After a quick search on here, it appears that Revo is certainly the preferred option for tuning.

Nonetheless, like Dave above, my car is still standard. My aim is to find the best switchable map for my car. My reasons for having a switchable map are my own, and I don't really give a sh!t if anyone approves or disapproves of them. Yes the remap will be declared to the insurers, and no the Stealer will not know about it and the car will always be returned to the Stealer in the stock state of tune.

I am sure this post will be delicately dissected like the previous ones as part of a carefully constructed offensive, but it would perhaps be better for cards to be placed on the table with proof, facts and info rather than toys thrown out of the pram.

[08micsta]

I actually think that hiding it is a good policy

Why on earth do you think that! 

That statement must be THE most stupidest thing ever posted on GolfGTIforum !!! 

Not very good with the English language then mate?

English language may not my strongest attribute, but I don't think I'm too bad.  It does, however, show you have to stoop so low to the gutter, in trying to exert your indefensable comments.

However, I am a very highly qualified Motor Vehicle Technician, and a very experienced "spanner monkey" too.  So I think I'm just slightly better positioned to voice my opinion, compared to you. 

I am also lead to believe other regular members of this, and other fourms, appreciate that my posts are based on valuble experience and knowledge, and that I am generally trustworthy, and don't post bollox.  Or maybe my specticles are the wrong shade?

Oh, and I don't know where you got the idea from that I was your "mate"!

Well opinions are like assholes and some stink,

You should know, because it appears you like burying your head up your own ar$ehole, when you don't want to listen or accept what others have to say! 

but my point was that if you don't go blowing or showing, at the very least the Stealer is not going to get a whiff of the fact the car has been played or tinkered with.

WRONG - the stealer WILL know the car has been "tampered" with.  Just like the stealer will be able to detect if non-VW approved engine oil is used.

Can I suggest you remove those very restrictive blinkers you appear to be wearing.  They really are only meant for creatures which have an extremely limited intelligence, such as horses.

That is worth something to a lot more than just me.

Explain.

I am going to be doing some research in to this when time allows as I am keen to map my car, but rather than deal with heresay from someone off a car forum, I would prefer to deal with fact.

So, where to you propose to get your "facts" from, then? 

I also plan to see what GIAC have to see about some of your comments to see if there is any truth in them.

And . . . we all await with baited breath.

Relax 

Thanks for the nice warm welcome and for listening to points of view different from your own one. It is good to see that input from all is welcomed and appraised constructively here rather than just ripping it to bits.

Unfortunately I do not have the time to bother engaging myself in to such trivial banter, and even if I did, I am not sure that I could be arsed as it would clearly fall on deaf ears.

What I am looking forward to however is the evidence that backs the claim that US based tuners use US code on UK cars and that this code causes premature and excessive wear on the engine. I will be forwarding this link on to Regal this afternoon and will be interested in their response.

FYI, after a quick phone call earlier, part of the initial response from Regal was "...the people saying these things no doubt very much pro Revo...". After a quick search on here, it appears that Revo is certainly the preferred option for tuning, which is fine.

Nonetheless, like Dave above, my car is still standard. My aim is to find the best switchable map for my car. My reasons for having a switchable map are my own, and I don't really give a sh!t if anyone approves or disapproves of them. Yes the remap will be declared to the insurers, and no the Stealer will not know about it and the car will always be returned to the Stealer in the stock state of tune.

I am sure this post will be delicately dissected like the previous ones as part of a carefully constructed offensive, but it would perhaps be better for cards to be placed on the table with proof, facts and info rather than toys thrown out of the pram.

To be honest I dont really care about this topic. My father owns an oil company and knows a lot about engines etc and he stands strong with what TT posted (I showed him the thread).

Yes the remap will be declared to the insurers, and no the Stealer will not know about it and the car will always be returned to the Stealer in the stock state of tune.

I have a problem with this. Because the next possible owner who buys the car may end up with problems due to you chipping the car. Unfortunatly i feel that no matter what chip you use it still damages the engine in some way. Why be honest to the insurance company and not to the dealer?

I am sure this email will be delicately dissected like the previous ones as part of a carefully constructed offensive, but it would perhaps be better for cards to be placed on the table with proof, facts and info rather than toys thrown out of the pram.

The cards have already been placed on the table. If its facts you want then just run a search on youtube and watch a few videos. That should say enough. i seen more then one video of cars (not MK5's in specific) burst into flames or had something blow because of chips.

I dont want to be on the offensive and I am a young teenager but from what I have heard from proffesional technicians etc on this forum I would not chip my own car.

But its up to you. If you gonna get it chipped. Then yes. Revo is pretty popular. 

[djhorace]

Had a quick search on youtube just now and saw the old video of the MK4 GTi 1.8T with the big turbo conversion on fire, but nothing about engine wear on MK5 Golfs with tuned TFSi engines.

[RedRobin]

Thanks for the nice warm welcome and for listening to points of view different from your own one. It is good to see that input from all is welcomed and appraised constructively here rather than just ripping it to bits.

Unfortunately I do not have the time to bother engaging myself in to such trivial banter, and even if I did, I am not sure that I could be arsed as it would clearly fall on deaf ears.

What I am looking forward to however is the evidence that backs the claim that US based tuners use US code on UK cars and that this code causes premature and excessive wear on the engine. I will be forwarding this link on to Regal this afternoon and will be interested in their response.

FYI, after a quick phone call earlier, part of the initial response from Regal was "...the people saying these things no doubt very much pro Revo...". After a quick search on here, it appears that Revo is certainly the preferred option for tuning.

Nonetheless, like Dave above, my car is still standard. My aim is to find the best switchable map for my car. My reasons for having a switchable map are my own, and I don't really give a sh!t if anyone approves or disapproves of them. Yes the remap will be declared to the insurers, and no the Stealer will not know about it and the car will always be returned to the Stealer in the stock state of tune.

I am sure this post will be delicately dissected like the previous ones as part of a carefully constructed offensive, but it would perhaps be better for cards to be placed on the table with proof, facts and info rather than toys thrown out of the pram.

....I merely challenged your attitude about hiding a remap and don't recall throwing any toys out of any prams. I would challenge anyone who expresses such attitudes as yours in the (possibly vain) hope that you might rethink as a result of it and even benefit. However, I don't think any of us here expect to agree about everything and debate is quite healthy.

I too will be interested in what Regal, as GIAC's representative, have to say, but I won't be holding my breath! My 'issue' with you is that if you have it in your character to hide a remap etc from your dealer, then what else is in your character? Besides which, for reasons already explained it simply doesn't make good sense. But each to their own and you obviously don't have to agree. 

[k4ith]

I myself for my previous car didn't advise my VW service dept that i had a 'remap' software version done via the OBD port, I didn't kid myself that the software was inpart always there but when in for a service i would revert back to stock, giving some credit to the mech's there but i dont think they would actively go looking for signs of a map even if they knew how to.My car was obviously not OEM as there was a Milltek downpipe and system fitted which one of the mech's commented on, we got onto the subject of maps and there response was what we dont know wont hurt us.Every garage is different but i would suspect a large number of them would not look kindly on 'maps' of any kind, even if it was a revo one , but i have been fortunate not to be in the predicament when push came to shove that the dealer would back my claim up even if i had been honest with them, as all garages are with their clientel.
The current car i did disclose all my additions to the head of the service dept and i also advised i was actively seaking a remap, he did say this would def affect any warranty work as any extra power/torque would probably have an adverse affect on the car.Even though in Spain they can order a map as an optional extra!
There is also a dealer in Glasgow who's demo Seat Cupra is fitted with a Giac Map and they demo this to customers if they are inclined that way and  you order this as an optional extra, also you can get leather fitted too, but they advise not to spec this from factory but instead get from a local supplier...... surely not, is that not against their franchise???
who knows but in time i will find out.