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Offline Russ.C

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Re: ED 30 how fast!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: 18 June 2007, 11:53 »
Great times Hurdy! :shocked: Nice to see all the GTI's/R32's on the M6 on Saturday, was quite jealous as I returned from work watching all the dubs going the other way!  Wanted to go yesterday but was told by the boss that my services were required at home  :sad:  Is it an annual event?
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Re: ED 30 how fast!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: 18 June 2007, 12:34 »
According to Wikipedia:

Powershifting (a.k.a. flat shifting, full throttle shift, or clutchless shift) is a method of shifting used with manual transmissions to reduce the time where the driving wheels are not powered.

Unlike a normal gearchange in a manual transmission, a powershift does not utilize the clutch at all. Instead, the gear lever is "ripped" from gear to gear. If tried with a road car, this can cause catastrophic damage if not selected in the right RPM range, especially if the gearbox doesn't have synchromesh.

OMG  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:  WHAT ON EARTH ARE VW DRIVER MAG UPTO?  Do they test all their cars like this?!  Thats not a meaningful 0-60 time at all.... I'm really suprised that VW let them get away with it.  Changing gears on a manual WITHOUT using the clutch - thats madness.  I'm sure they don't do that with every test car so why the manual GTI?  Maybe someone over there just wants to show that manual is faster than DSG.... it confused the hell out of me when I read the 0-60 time for the manual on a standard GTI in VW Driver mag as being 6 seconds - versus 6.2 for the DSG... but that explains it all.
« Last Edit: 18 June 2007, 12:37 by illyun »
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Re: ED 30 how fast!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: 18 June 2007, 13:36 »
It is quite possibe to change gear in a manual either up or down without using a clutch. You have to make sure your revs at spot on or else there's a horrible crunching noise.
I think there is adequate warning in the article that this should not be done in a normal road going car. Therefore they imply that the gearbox would need to be modified to allow this "violent" gear change method.

I'm personally really happy with the DSG, I think the balance between automatic and manual overide is definatley the way forward.
For people that argue you are losing control to a computer and that the fun is taken away. I ask how far would they get without power steering, or ABS, or traction control,  etc.
I drive mainly with the paddles unless I'm in heavy traffic.
« Last Edit: 18 June 2007, 13:40 by Pabs32 »


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Re: ED 30 how fast!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: 18 June 2007, 13:43 »
lmao, thats great, id neva friggin try it tho!
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Re: ED 30 how fast!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: 18 June 2007, 15:07 »
It is quite possibe to change gear in a manual either up or down without using a clutch. You have to make sure your revs at spot on or else there's a horrible crunching noise.
I think there is adequate warning in the article that this should not be done in a normal road going car. Therefore they imply that the gearbox would need to be modified to allow this "violent" gear change method.

I'm personally really happy with the DSG, I think the balance between automatic and manual overide is definatley the way forward.
For people that argue you are losing control to a computer and that the fun is taken away. I ask how far would they get without power steering, or ABS, or traction control,  etc.
I drive mainly with the paddles unless I'm in heavy traffic.

Have to agree with you on DSG... the words that VW Driver used - i.e. 'brutal' and 'ripped' don't sound like they got the revs spot on  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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