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Re: Thinking about getting a GTi
« Reply #10 on: 16 June 2007, 22:04 »
Im 18 and i have gone from a Clio Sport to a GTI

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Re: Thinking about getting a GTi
« Reply #11 on: 16 June 2007, 22:48 »
Makes my first car (Citroen AX GT) look a bit pants... why did I have poor parents??  :smiley:
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Mk 5 GTi, Tornado Red, Leather, Xenons, 18" Monza II's, Sunroof, 6CD in Armrest, Winter pack & Tinted Windows... soon to be adding ED30 front spoiler, plus R32 sideskirts... then getting fully colour coded!
New engine fitted when car was at 27k... last one went "noisey".

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Re: Thinking about getting a GTi
« Reply #12 on: 17 June 2007, 02:22 »

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Re: Thinking about getting a GTi
« Reply #13 on: 17 June 2007, 17:14 »
Ok, so I have been thinking about finding a replacement for the '01 2.5 Mondeo Zetec-S that I sold late last year, since then I have been smoking around in a '93 BMW E30 318i Lux auto touring - great car, but now a bit tired.

I am married, with a small child, but my wife has an '05 CR-V which is the main family car, so practicality is not the biggest issue, that said I still wanted four seats, and ideally at least four doors. I was initially hoping to get an E46 Sport, either a 330i man / 330d auto, and ideally a Touring as I appreciate having a hatch, and my driveway is pretty awkward, so a rear wiper is also handy.

I had decided that I was comfortable with a budget of around £15k, and could afford to go a little higher for the right car. Some early investigating showed that I was going to struggle to get into a 330 with the right spec, sensible mileage and any of it's original warranty remaining. This troubled me as £15k seems like a lot of cash to me, and I wanted to minimise any gamble. I know a BM is unlikely to go wrong, but if it did, it was likely to be expensive. So, with the BMW's knocked off the list, the search was on for something newer, but still at least quick, and ideally fast.

As an avid Autocar reader, and a longtime Ford fan, the Focus ST seemed like a good bet - I should be able to get an '06 plate 5dr ST-3 with some extras, for around £16k, so I arranged a test drive. Being as I was looking at hot hatches, and the Megane R26 is reckoned to be superb, I arranged a test drive in one of those too. Part of the added attraction of the R26 was the possibility of buying a brand new one for under £16k (www.nationwide-cars.co.uk), better economy than the ST, better turning circle and the lack of a heavy 5cyl over the front axle. I discounted the Civic type-R immediately as I wanted something at least a little torquey, and it has no rear wiper. I also decided I should really try a Golf GTi - I had previously been very impressed by the DSG transmission, but was concerned that due to the high new pricing and lack of discounts, I would have the same problems as buying a 330, i.e. nothing new enough within my budget.

I should really point out that at this point, I had already decided I would get a Focus, despite not having driven an ST. I went to try the Megane really just because I felt I ought to. I took it out in torrential rain, and I was blown away. What a car, the interior was great, the drive was wonderful, kit was good, auto lights, auto wipers, climate, 18" wheels, big brakes, Recaro seats, computer, I came away really impressed. I went straight to the local Ford dealership and tried an ST on the same route.

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Re: Thinking about getting a GTi
« Reply #14 on: 17 June 2007, 17:15 »
While I initially felt more comfortable in the Focus, I was generally disappointed in the quality of the interior materials - perhaps almost as much the colouring as the materials - I was in an ST-3, with full black leather, black dash top, upper door cards, etc. but much of the lower dash, door panels, centre console, etc are a dark grey, and look really cheap. Probably fine with grey upholstery, but not with the leather. That combined with the lack of standard auto climate and some of the other things mentioned, were starting to put me off. After a good drive, and some slightly sporting driving around a large roundabout, I came to the conclusion that while the Focus was a good drive, it wasn't quite as good as the Megane, and that the added practicality of 5 doors wasn't enough to compensate for the car being 12m old, with a less pleasant interior, heavy 5cyl engine, poor turning circle and even worse fuel economy.

That was it, I was getting the Megane. I went through the process with the broker, spoke to a friend with a 3yr old Megane, albeit a DCi, and was planning on placing my order for a '57 plate car after running it past my wife. Except it wasn't that simple. Not only was she not keen on my getting a 3dr, she was much, much less keen on the idea of my getting a French car, and asked me to show her that they were as reliable as I claimed. I had up until this point based my plan upon the fact that it is a great drive, and comes with 3 yrs warranty so shouldn't be too bad. Then I looked at the Top Gear reliability survey 2006, and read the owner reviews. While no-one with a RenaultSport car had a problem, the level of problems encountered by people with standard Meganes was appauling. Even if I was willing to give it a go, I knew there was no way I was going to get this approved. Reading reviews on the Focus suggested it was better, but by no means great. Then, just out of interest, I read the reviews on the Golf, the car I already knew was going to be more than I wanted to spend. Of course, pretty much nothing significant had gone wrong. Everyone was delighted. Bugger. After the visual drama of the Megane R26, and the grunt of the Focus ST, I was feeling a bit disappointed.

Nonetheless, we all went to the local VW dealer who had a '55 plate 27k GTi 5dr, with DSG, for £16,650. Went out in their demo, and my memories of DSG in the TT were selling the transmission short. Wow! First thought was why would anyone want any other transmission? Second thought was that it seems just as quick as the other two, drives really well, and the standard car is actually pretty well specified, dual climate, auto lights, mirror, wipers, it might not have Recaro's, but the standard sports seats seemed pretty special, the interior is in another leave to the Renault and Focus, and the lack of 18's on this particular car didn't bother me too much, I doubt there is much different in the handling, tyres should be cheaper, and being as the 17's aren't polished they shouldn't corrode too badly.

I am not buying this particular car, as it had no extra's, other than DSG, and I don't really want to buy until the autumn, the lead time for a new Megane making it important to make my mind up now, however this car does illustrate that good late used cars are available within my budget, and I am just going to hold out for a better specc'd car, perhaps starting the search seriously in Autumn.

The Ford was a good car, but I just wasn't convinced with the interior colouring, and compared with the Golf is too expensive new, unless you are a Privilege buyer, but that is probably who Ford's pricing mainly targets...

The Renault was a great car, unfortunately not available as a 5dr, and blighted by the prospect of appauling reliability.

The Golf is a genuinly great car, as good to drive as the Focus, if not the Renault, but one that will be much, much easier to live with due to the DSG transmission, extra pair of doors, and promised sound reliability.

In the meantime, anyone planning on selling an '05 - '06 plate Golf GTi 5dr later this year, with DSG and a few choice options, please get in touch!

Thank you everyone for your time and comments.