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Offline Creepy Coupe

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Re: ED 30 and R32
« Reply #30 on: 05 June 2007, 11:03 »
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Comfortwise, again, the R32 has a harsher ride than the GTI - this may be fine for rock steady handling down an autobahn at V-max with a heavy cross wind - but in real case scenario "everyday" motoring, the GTI has again been described as the better set-up.

Sorry I disagree with that, the R32 might push on more in corners, but IMO you adapt to it's characteristics , just like any other car, and as for the ride, I think it's extra weight actually irons out rut's and bump's better than the GTi, and it doesn't cock a rear wheel when you turn in hard,
In fact the quicker you go in the R32, the better things get.  :nerd:

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Re: ED 30 and R32
« Reply #31 on: 05 June 2007, 11:11 »
re: emissions, my old 1967 mini can pump out whatever fumes it wants, as the MOT tester said they only have to look for visible smoke.   :grin:
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Re: ED 30 and R32
« Reply #32 on: 05 June 2007, 11:36 »
TT's nailed it IMO!

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Re: ED 30 and R32
« Reply #33 on: 05 June 2007, 11:37 »
re: emissions, my old 1967 mini can pump out whatever fumes it wants, as the MOT tester said they only have to look for visible smoke.   :grin:


Yeah takes the Pi@@ don't it.  :angry:  :smiley:

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Re: ED 30 and R32
« Reply #34 on: 05 June 2007, 18:58 »
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Comfortwise, again, the R32 has a harsher ride than the GTI - this may be fine for rock steady handling down an autobahn at V-max with a heavy cross wind - but in real case scenario "everyday" motoring, the GTI has again been described as the better set-up.

Sorry I disagree with that, the R32 might push on more in corners,

That is exactly my point.  Too much understeer, compared to the GTI.  And because it isn't a "real" 4wd, you cant rely on the back end digging in under hard acceleration, in order to reduce the understeer.  On a Torsen quattro, if they understeer, then give it more gas, the rears bite harder, taking some of the weight off the front end, and allowing better steering control.

but IMO you adapt to it's characteristics ,

Oh, agreed!

as for the ride, I think it's extra weight actually irons out rut's and bump's better than the GTi,

Hmmm, I can sort of see where you are going with this, but unfortunately, more weight ultimately means more effort (stronger springs and/or dampers) to maintain the same level of handling control.  Otherwise, F1 cars would be 10-tonne monsters!  :nerd:

and it doesn't c*ck a rear wheel when you turn in hard,

It is actually set up like that, to prevent the Haldex from cooking itself.

In fact the quicker you go in the R32, the better things get.  :nerd:

I dont doubt you there!  :wink:  :smiley:
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Re: ED 30 and R32
« Reply #35 on: 06 June 2007, 08:23 »

as for the ride, I think it's extra weight actually irons out rut's and bump's better than the GTi,

Hmmm, I can sort of see where you are going with this, but unfortunately, more weight ultimately means more effort (stronger springs and/or dampers) to maintain the same level of handling control.  Otherwise, F1 cars would be 10-tonne monsters!  :nerd:


I wasn't suggesting it has a good power to weight ratio, and yes it's heavy at 1500 KG, but the reason big cars give that "Big car ride" is there weight and wheelbase, I think if we were to drive an F1 car on our public roads we'd have no spines left afterwards, due in part to there lightweight contruction and firm spring rate with very little travel.   :huh:

Let be honest most of what were debating here really dosn't effect us in 99% of our driving, and if we were to really throw up some of the MK5's weaknesses, we'd be driving like complkete idiots, if it were on public roads  :smiley: