gti's

[mk3 moe]

hey ppl

is a 1.8cl the same as a gti or is there a difference, if so wot is it. (on a mk3)

also is there a mk2 equivalent of the tdi and wots ur views on the mk3tdi

i really want a mk3 gti but cant afford the petrol or insurance. any ideas on cheap insurance or alternatives to the gti

any replies much appreciated

[kniterider]

if u cant afford the 'gti' mk3, then try the 'driver' this normally has alloys/sports seats etc and is pretty much the same but has a 1800cc engine, as for the tdi yeah will be good on fuel, not sure of the power out puts on mk3 tdis?? 90 or 115 rings a bell but dont quote me on it!!, they can be tuned to a fair bit more but not as much as mk4 (pd tdi engines) the driver would be your best option if u cant afford a gti

[jv]

evening moe,

the mk3 cl is only 75 or maybe 90bhp so the engine is less in peformance and the trim is going to be less interesting.

you can get a mk2 tdi but it's pretty rare. as kniterider says, you can get a 'driver' version of both the mk2 and 3 so they might be worth a go

[john_wintle]

Don't think you can get a Mk2 TDI, it will have been the TD producing about 75 bhp, certainly not the TDI engine as fitted to Mk3 Golfs/Audi's etc. Probably would have been badged a CL-TD as well.

As an alternative to the Mk3 GTI, I would look at the Mk3 TDI. Performance won't be far short of the GTI when you are moving and overtaking as the torque is huge. Disregard the 0-60 times as they are worthless on the road, but instead look at the 30-50/50-70 times as they are more real life.

OK, the suspension will be a bit softer, but that can be fixed with a new set. The only thing that yo might find is that they will be high mileage examples and te price will probably still be high compared to the GTI of a similar age/mileage.

Serviceing costs will be higher as well, as the oil/filter will need to be changed more frequently, but you have to offset this against the fuel economy/insurace etc that you will be paying.

HTH,

John.

[Gambit]

plus the TDi's go on for millions of miles without any problems

[kniterider]

but any thing less than gti/driver interior is er, extremmley BORING

[Dizzie]

and slow

[Overseer]

also the mk3 gti's (8v and 16v) are both 2.0s

at the end of the day there is a reason the gti's cost more to insure..

[Golfgal]

I can whip a mk3 gti 8v in my mk2 8v easy.

Get a mk1 gti yay  

[Dizzie]

who's mk2 8v?