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[Phil mcavity]

as does any mk 5 GTI

[Hurdy]

as does any mk 5 GTI

Too true

[Teutonic_Tamer]

there has never been a failure with a VTec engine,

Hmmm - I seriously doubt that!  There may have been no "publicised"  VTec failures, but you can be sure that as long as your botty has a ring, then engines fail, and that includes the Honda v-tec.

Actually, Honda are quite sly with their "publicity".  Just ask any motorcyclist about the new Honda Pan-European - two major faults with it, yet Honda deny any problems, so they don't publicise any problems! 

[jameal eg6]

hey to be honest i think hondas are pretty good, they are very reliable, and true the new CTR's are VERY refined BUT if u modify it a little, cams, breathing etc - they do sound nice and also go pretty well. The seating position is fine and if u do want something not so refined u should try driving one of the old Eg or Ek B series Hondas, they are awsome - as i have 1 lol

from a 1.6 the b16 pushes 167 bhp, thats pretty damn good with no turbo (and if u add a turbo - best of both worlds!) - 0-60 in around 7.3 which i think is faster than a 1.8 GTI turbo golf if im not mistaken!!

[Phil mcavity]

but alot slower then a mk 5 gti in any guise!!, take your slow honda outa here!!!   

[sharpie]

hey to be honest i think hondas are pretty good, they are very reliable, and true the new CTR's are VERY refined BUT if u modify it a little, cams, breathing etc - they do sound nice and also go pretty well. The seating position is fine and if u do want something not so refined u should try driving one of the old Eg or Ek B series Hondas, they are awsome - as i have 1 lol

from a 1.6 the b16 pushes 167 bhp, thats pretty damn good with no turbo (and if u add a turbo - best of both worlds!) - 0-60 in around 7.3 which i think is faster than a 1.8 GTI turbo golf if im not mistaken!!

turbo b16s are a waste of time. there's a reason the main tuning companies like mugen/spoon don't make turbo kits for them.

you'd spent a lot of money n/a tuning, but just as a gti deserves a remap, EP type Rs deseve a supercharger.

the new CTR is not a true type R imo, bling bling wheels shouldn't be what its about. DC2 ITR all the way.

[jameal eg6]

Sharpie - i also agree with u abut the new CTR, i am personally going to get a JDM DC2 ITR next - its a very good car, and i would like to say that the ek9 is a very very good Type R - and the only CTR i would get if i was to get one. As for Turbo's u r right, but also with the right tuning u can get major boost and reliability with B series engines, it will also give u more value for money in the long run instead of tuning NA, as u can get more power out of boost. its a good engines to start tuning on if u r serious. Although having said this i have senn some very Mean powered NA civics that have awsome response and power! B20 Vtec conversion for starters is very popular to bring the displacement to 2 litres.

Phil Mcavity - i was only posting my opinion, and ur talking about a MK5 GTI!!!, my car is a 1992 - J reg that is pretty damn quick and is still going strong, and only has a 1.6 lump! oh and reliability is well in there aswell with the B Series engines.

[Phil mcavity]

OK am i being dumb or is this a Vw forum , isnt there one for your honda's. or shall i just got find it and just talk  about Vw's on their forum and see what reaction i get?

[sharpie]

OK am i being dumb or is this a Vw forum , isnt there one for your honda's. or shall i just got find it and just talk  about Vw's on their forum and see what reaction i get?

no harm in talking about other cars - i think a lot of members on this forum have their "vw blinkers" on. i realise it strayed a little from topic, but the title is CTR & ED30. 

[Hurdy]

Just to be pedantic

The title is NEW CIVIC TYPE R + ED30. and not older  models.

If Jameal had some experience of modding the NEW CTR then maybe....just maybe it would have passed un-noticed on the thread.

Nevermind ..back on topic....ED30 gets better day by day as the miles rack up. Im sure the NEW CTR is good but - for me - it's not in the same league.

And I am unashamedly biased toward the ED30 obviously