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Offline antgti

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #20 on: 01 February 2004, 23:57 »
i will post a pic this week of the most minging R32 in the world, it is sittingbourne and the guy has f**ked it, i will get a snap this week
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Offline nrgizerbunny

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #21 on: 02 February 2004, 11:23 »
i have to disagree with N_wales_vr6 regarding a few things.

firstly the depreciation of a german (vw) car. you have to pay upwards of ?800 premium (bog standard golf ) for it but after 3 years you will not get that back and the difference is perhaps only a few hundred quid compared to a japanese car. at the top end the civic is ?16k on the road, i'm guessing an r32 is somewhere between 18 and 20k that kind of premium will not be had back after 3 years.

the other thing is about style v reliability, the current mk4 is certainly not the most reliable car in the world, you only have to look at the JD power surveys and top gear and just about the whole of the top 10 is japanese cars (apart from the jag xj this year i think). for a car that used to be marketed on its reliability (mk2 advert with paula somebody and "if only everything in life was as reliable as a volkswagen), vw does quite badly. i think in 10 years every car will look old, there are a few exceptions though, audi tt i don't think that will age quickly and the toyota yaris, i think that shape willage slowly too.

i do agree about the french styling but i think its more renault with its quirky styling. i personally think the new citroen c2 looks quite nice.

just my 2 penceworth

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #22 on: 03 February 2004, 00:10 »
HEy i disagrea.  R32's are 22k upwards and yes they will hold a premium.  you can pick up a civic type-r for 11000 now.  the cheapest r32 which is now 1 yr old is list price.  the r32 is a one off never to be repeated car. The R32 has all the mod cons standard.eg climate, headlight washers, heatedseats, xenons, cruise, rain sensor.  the civic type r comes with sod all and basic aircon not climate costs ?1000 to have it as its not standard.  r32 vs civic is not even fair on the tin can civic, r32 all the way.  just way more class

Audi TT's. sorry starting to show their age now, the design is not timeless, compare the tt to the new RX-8 think you can tell which one is the newest, TT needs to be revamped, plus they are so dmn common, wheres the individuality

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #23 on: 03 February 2004, 06:58 »
Back to my original question, is there anyone on this site who has an R32? and are they as dreamy as they look? Might post this on www.uk-mkivs.net too!

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #24 on: 03 February 2004, 09:09 »
clearly the R32 is better but you have to give the civic type R a chance as it is no that bad looking and pretty quick for the price :P

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #25 on: 03 February 2004, 09:30 »
Type R = 6.6s to 60mph
R32 = 6.6s to 60mph


.. oh and the game was made by EA.. and there Japanese or American ... so there gonna favour the Japanese cars over the GERMAN ones!  >:(

Gotham was made by 'Bizarre Creations' and published by Microsoft. - to be very very pedantic  :-\

Having licenced cars in a video game gets very political indeed, so biasing a manufacturer in a game that represents broad range of cars is just not on. The game is likely to require approval from the car makers hence the TypeR matching the R32 in game. This also prevents real cars from being proper smashed up in game.

Ferrari are the worst for this.

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #26 on: 06 February 2004, 10:48 »
but surely there should be many laws against doing this. :-\

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #27 on: 06 February 2004, 11:46 »
Now that would make it even more complicated.

Games developers just want to make games. We have to respect the percieved image of the manufacturers range and keep the powers that be happy, then everyones a winner.

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #28 on: 07 February 2004, 13:54 »
not really cos it can make some cars look bad surely  ???

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Re:Are R32s slow?
« Reply #29 on: 09 February 2004, 15:42 »
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Back to my original question, is there anyone on this site who has an R32? and are they as dreamy as they look? Might post this on www.uk-mkivs.net too!

Yep, I own one!  ;D Have done for about 7 months now and it still makes me smile and laugh like a looney when I drive!

No they are not slow. But they are not the fastest car in the world either. When comparing it to a Civic TypeR, you have to remember that the TypeR is FWD and the R32 is AWD, it is also up in weight and BHP and torque on the TypeR. So, I would say that 9 out of 10 times it would beat the TypeR in traffic light races, straight line and possibly cornering. Although it all depends on the driver of course.

Also remember that the R32's power is in a very useable power range. It pulls hard from under 1000rpm and doesn't quit until 6250rpm. As I understand it, the TypeR's peak power and torque come very high in the rev range, which will have an effect when 'racing' with an R32.

I can well believe that the R32 kept up with the Evo7! Although the EVo7 has more power and permanent 4WD, it has the dreaded turbo lag syndrome! This gives the R some sort of a chance.

Which would I choose, between the 3 (Civic, Evo and R32)? The R32 every time! Why, because it has been built for speed and comfort, whereas the other two are designed more for speed.

Anyway, with a few small mods the R32 can push out 300+ HP and lbft! That should be enough to give the Evo a really good run for it's money.

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