too much tax?

[gti fly bye]

I herd today that next year we'll be payin an extra ?60 for our insurance because of un-insured drives( bastards)!!

With payin 80% tax on petrol, road tax, congestion charges and the new M6 toll don't we pay a nuff??
And now there is talk of raisin petrol to ?1 a littre!!!

People wouldn't dodge insurance  if it wasn't sky high!
In ireland they have a second tax disc to prove insurance, we need this!

[dubslug]

agreed  

[S11EPS]

Yeah, but we get great value for money don't we?

NOT

Why doesn't all the money get spent on the roads? I wouldn't even mind if some of it went on public transport - that would get some more f*ckers off the road, and free it up for the rest of us!

But no, its gets spent on all manner of B*llocks, other han from where its generated.

[winstonb]

car insurance is little more than a protection racket, premiums bare little relation to the actual costs/probablitly ratio of claims that that are made.  The insurance companies basically charge us loads of money for cars 'cause we have to, which they use to subsidise the other claims they have to pay out on. Thats why specialists are usually cheaper, as they only have to underwrite motor claims.

its all a con.  The industry should be regulated so that motor insurance is ring-fenced from other risks.

[Dizzie]

if our roads were like an F1 track everywhere (ie, flat and no pot holes), speed cameras were only in spots that was actually dangerous and not on open A roads or hidden behind bridges and trees and various other related things were better I wouldn't mind shelling out the ?160 for my tax.

but raising the price of fuel is going to result in another scene like a couple years back. everyone panic buying. It's already 80p/litre where I work. It's just not on!

At a previous garage someone came in with out of date tax by more than a few days (like a year) so I said to him his tax was out of date. he told me to mind my own f**king business. I doubt he was insurred either. There are also so many cars on our roads that look like if you poked them something would fall off. I can't see why people can't look after their cars a little bit more. it doesn't take much to make it look like new. so many people comment how good my car looks and she's 17 in a few days! and I know there are mk1s the same.

Rant over - toast time

[gti fly bye]

Two cars drive by a police check point.
 One,  a rusty old nova saloon, bold ass tyers, no tax, no mot, no insurance because the oink who drives it dosen't care about his car as its just a mode of transport to hin,  A to B.
The other, a middle modded gti, just been polished, new tyers because he drives his car fast and wants to stay on the road, tax'd and m.o.t'd because he know he is an likley target for the police, Insured because he wants some thing back if it gets knicked or rear ended, he loves his car, its his pride n joy!

Now, who are the police gonna pull, hassel and harrass?
Mr gti, because he isn't the sort of driver the police/goverment understands, he drives for plesure and pride of his prestine motor!
NOB HEADS!!!

[gazzagtiT]

that ireland idea sounds good, any1 who i no of that i dont no to well if i found out they didnt hav ins i would just grass them up, balls to em, pay ur way ar5holes!!! all it takes it one copper to walk round a shopping center car park takin an phoning through number plates, any dodges do em!!  

[modulater]

Why dont the police get off their fat arses and actually go out and arrest these wayne kerrs who drive with no insurance. I suppose that wouldn't help as they would only get a fine and never ever end up paying it as they dont have any cash.

I think a new punishment should be bought in, you drive with no insurance and you get kneecapped.

[S11EPS]

I think its ludicrous that we are in the 21st century and yet it is still so easy for thousands of drivers to con the government out of so much money.

I heard yesterday that one in twenty drivers is un-insured.

If those poeple are un-insured, they can't buy a tax disc, so a lot of those cars will be un-taxed also.

If you have no tax and no insurance, you aren't likely to bother having the car MOT'd either.

The reason these people aren't caught and bought to justice comes down to the fact that there is no visible method of displaying your conformance with MOT and insurance - you're only caught when you get pulled over.

This is where its all wrong, as Dizzie says, the police are more inclined to tug the driver of a modified car.  The modified car driver has, in many cases, spent thousands on his/her car, and therfore wishes to protect his/her investment - the likelihood of us guys going unisured is vastly lower than that of someone driving a ?300 sh!tbox vehicle that they don't give a f*ck about.

So, the police are pulling plenty of drivers, but instead of catching criminals (people who are actually costing the rest of the country money) they are issuing us tickets for having our stereo's too loud, or having blue bulbs in our sidelights.

I see no reason why a method cannot be introduced that show's to the outside world that a car is legal. It may complicate the process of buying or selling a car, but i it means near 100% conformance with MOT tax and insurance, surely its got to be worth it?

[mk1]

Agree with all the above points, but most untaxed, un ensured and un MOT'd cars are not in the drivers name. When they get a producer, they give a false name and address. It is to much hassel for the plod to follow up, easy to pull over the guy that has a bulb out on a legal registered car and have nice tidy paperwork.
Steve.