3 out of 4 shocks leaking....time for a suspension upgrade: a few questions...

[ScottMk2Gti16v]

Boge turbo gas - how do i find them on the GSF site?  I only seem to be able to get a list of VW parts and can't see them.  Are they on sale anywhere else?

I can find the eibach springs no problem - approx £120? That right?  It says they only lower 20mm - is that right?

[Gambit]

45557A is the part number

if your feeling really flash vwspares.co.uk have the even better boge shocks @ £50 a touch

[Organisys]

45557A is the part number

if your feeling really flash vwspares.co.uk have the even better boge shocks @ £50 a touch

I forgot this...very true. look on their website, or phone them. There are two Eibach spring kits for the Mk2. one lowers by 20mm the other by 30 to 40mm. I'd got for the latter.  You want this Eibach Part Number:-

E8502-140

From http://www.eibach.de/

The only reason I can think of that people say avoid GSF, is that some of the copy or 'pattern' parts they sell arn't as good quality as OEM ones from the VW dealership.

[ScottMk2Gti16v]

Thanks guys, I've made a decision on getting a combination of the Boge Turbo Gas Shocks and Eibach Springs, I'm not splashing out on coilovers when this setup sounds great for me. Can please someone confirm the order details below are correct, i.e. part numbers, etc.  Are those top mounts the right ones that everyone seems to be recommending?

Thanks to all for the help - without it I'd have ended up buying any old random suspension kit!

From http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g2suspension.php

Shock Absorbers, Front    
170130 Front Shock Absorber [Sealed Unit, G60 Gas (Advantage)] (x2) £100.20   (Gambit - are these the ones you're talking about?)
Shock Absorbers, Rear 
105776 Rear Shock Absorber [16v & G60, Gas (Not 4WD)] (x2) £49.70
Top Strut Mounts, Front
03456 Strut Mount [1.8 G60 (Heavy Duty)] (x2) £15.10
 
 
Sub-Total: £149.90
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

From http://www.venommotorsport.com

Springs
8509-140 Golf Mk 2 1.8 16V, 1.8 GTI, 1.6 D, 1.6 TD Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs (x4) £98

[Organisys]

The Shocks look spot on, but look at the difference in the Eibach part numbers. The part numer you quote is for only the 20mm lowering springs I think.

Get these 'E8502-140' as they are 30-40mm lowering.

[ScottMk2Gti16v]

Oopss..well spotted - that was the drop I wanted.  I've just checked the website and the details for the 2 different height Eibach springs are:

Part ID: 8502-140
Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs
Axle Weights: F840kg - R740kg Lowers F30-40mm - R30-35mm
Volkswagen Golf Mk 2 1.0, 1.3, 1.6, 1.8, 1.8 GTI, 1.8 GTI G60 19E
Year: 08.83 - 10.91    £98.00
(ex. VAT)
 
 
Part ID: 8509-140
Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs
Axle Weights: F840kg - R740kg Lowers F20mm - R20mm
Volkswagen Golf Mk 2 1.8 16V, 1.8 GTI, 1.6 D, 1.6 TD 19E
Year: 02.86 - 10.91  


I think what threw me off the trail was that "16v" is only mentioned on the 20mm springs. I presume the "1.8 GTI" is what I should be looking for (it's on both of the products). Is that right?

[ScottMk2Gti16v]

Now it's confusing:

DC Dezign says
http://www.dcdezign.com/details.asp?item=e-8509.140
http://www.dcdezign.com/details.asp?item=e-8502.140
They have the 8509.140 & the 8502.140 listed saying "A sporty look by lowering the vehicle up to 40 mm"


Venom says:
Part ID: 8502-140 - Lowers F30-40mm - R30-35mm
Volkswagen Golf Mk 2 1.0, 1.3, 1.6, 1.8, 1.8 GTI, 1.8 GTI G60 19E
Year: 08.83 - 10.91
 
 
Part ID: 8509-140 - Lowers F20mm - R20mm
Volkswagen Golf Mk 2 1.8 16V, 1.8 GTI, 1.6 D, 1.6 TD 19E
Year: 02.86 - 10.91


Organisys - you say the 8502.140 are the lower springs - this looks right - yet I'm concerned the "16v" isn't listed against them.

DC Dezign recommended the other ones, 8509.140 as being springs that would give my car a 35-40mm drop (this basically contradicts info on website for DC Dezign).

Time for bed and tackle this with a fresh head in the morning........

[Organisys]

Don't worry that the 16v isn't listed the ones listed with the larger drop are the ones you want. They will fit fine and you will be very pleased with the end result, I can tell you. I know I am.
 

[ScottMk2Gti16v]

Sounds good to me - I'm off to get them ordered I think....

Only thing I'm a bit concerned about is that I've read if you go lower than 30mm (ish) it may move the wishbone into a bad position? Should I be worried about that?


----------
Just ordered everything apart from the springs:

03456 Strut Mount  (x2)  £15.10
08384 Bumpstop  (x2) £4.62
14958 Strut Mount Kit  (x1) £6.69
19381 Spring Plate  (x2)  £8.48
 01525 Bumpstop  (x2) £9.88
 170130 Front Shock Absorber  (x2) £100.20
 105776 Rear Shock Absorber  (x2) £49.70

Does all that look about right 

Just want to dig a little further into the Eibach lowering springs - 20mm or 40mm - will the wishbones, etc be okay regardless?

[WhiteMk2Gti]

Well from reading this and other things, the BOGE Turbo dampers are classed as a "soft" damper and the springs are classed as a "hard" spring.

which is ideal really.

However, any ideas on the "poundage" of the springs?

And whilst on the subject of suspension and bushes:

What bushes need replaceing and whats the "shore" of them?

Different companys will use different materials for them, and as such the "shore" will be different. So what company does the best for the Mk2?

(on my fav car i use MiniSpares bushes which seem to be the correct "shore" for the car)