oh dear is it going be that bad!! ive only cut 2 rings off them thats all, oh well if it gets wrote off all the more reason for a vr6 or r32 ;-) could really do with the golf dissapearing anyway my lady refuses to sell her baby and states that when we move to florida next year shes taking it with her! please no! we need to be taking a vr6 or r32 in yellow! ;-)