Author Topic: Newbie questions................simple product and install advice needed!  (Read 3822 times)

Offline Julesx

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Hi

MK 2 install...................................

I am sure this has been covered a million times, but......................

I fancy a nice Alpine head unit (I like how they sound).
I understand that a set of components with a sub in the boot is the way to go, but can anyone give me
an idea of what bits and bobs I need on my shopping list to complete the job (Answers in plain English please!! How is the best way to fit it all for the standard look?

Also what is the cheapest way to get a reasonable sound. I am not into huge bass or comoetition but I like my music.

Many thanks

Jules



Offline Uruk Hai

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Obviously you'll start with your head unit and speakers for the front doors then there'll be the sub and amp and the wiring which should include :- a fused live wire, a good set of R.C.A.'s, a remote on wire (to switch the amp on with the head unit), a earth cable and enough good oxygen free cable to connect the amp to the sub. I would advice you to get the best quality and thickest cables you can afford.

Fitting:- When you fit the system you may wish to first fit sound proofing, when you connect the live wire to the battery have the fuse as close to the battery as you can and I would run the live across the bulkhead and down the driver's side of the car (same side as the fuel pump) this will allow you to run the R.C.A cables and remote on down the passengers side of the car reducing the chances of interference from electrical systems. As for the earth cable there are many different schools of thought but I've allways used the shortest earth cable I can making sure that its secured to the bare metal of the car. As for the front speakers it seems as though the most used locations are the door pockets (obviously) for the mids and the dash recesses for the tweeters.
I've probably left out or forgot a fair bit but I think these are some of the more important aspects of fitting, the last thing you do fit should be the fuses as I would remove them from the live wire and the amp until the installation is complete and ready to go.

As far as cost goes your best bet is to look around and see what you like the look of, try and read reviews on products if you can. I have a 12 inch Vibe ported enclosure and while not producing insane bass it is more than enough for my needs and easily enough for a hatchback the size of a Golf.  Try and get a sub and amp that are well matched and it mite be cheaper to get a mono amp that is purely for running a sub, if you buy a fairly high powered head unit you may be happy just to use that to run the front speakers and get a amp for them at a later date if you felt it needed it. I have an Alpine head unit that has a sub pre out which is nice because it allows you to independently control the sub volume and frequency so if you want more or less bass you can get it without having to turn the speakers up or down by the same amount as the sub. My front speakers are Vibe SA - K series and there very good and I run them with the head unit and they sound fine.

Have a look here  http://www.vibeaudio.co.uk/

As I said I'm pretty sure theres loads I've left out so if anyone wants to add to it great  :wink: :wink:

Offline Julesx

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Wow......

Loads of info! Thanks very much for the quick reply as well!
I'll work through your reply and no doubt be back with loads more dumb questions! :rolleyes:
Cheers
Jules

Offline Uruk Hai

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No sweat mate happy to help  :wink:

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what's your budget. maybe we can advise you how to spend it for the sound you want :)
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Offline Julesx

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Not much really :sad:................I know how much this ICE malarky can get!

I only have about 200 for the HU and another 200 for the rest. My theory being that I can buy the HU and then gradually buy the other bits as and when I can afford it.

It occurs to me that it might be better to buy a good HU (400 seems like alot to me)and just wait until I can afford the rest.

Could I get a reasonable HU for 200 or not? As I said I am not looking for 'mega sounds' but just a half reasonable sound without spending loads.
Whatdoyoureckon?
Cheers

Jules

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Your budget sounds fine, but not sure it stretches to Alpine equipment.

Probably get slated for this but - Buy a Max Power magazine.
The advertisers in there give the lowest prices for ICE.

Or take pot luck and buy off ebay!
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Gotta agree with Len405 about buying the dreaded Max Power mags, but you could probably find as much just spending a while surfing the net and as said its allways worth a look on ebay but I would only use the ebay shops and not buy second hand unless I had to. Have a look at these ?

http://www.caraudiodirect.com/

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/home.html

http://www.mcs-direct.co.uk/

http://www.cel-direct.com/

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Those are usually the cheapest. I got my sub and amp from the second one down.

Another cheap one is BassJunkies, not sure what their website is.
I bought the Max Power mag to get those websites coz they dont always come up in searches.
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Offline Julesx

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Thanks for the links. I can feel the money slipping through my fingers already! :grin:

I have had a re think!

I am going to try and find some decent components and all the associated 'wires and boxes' and struggle on with my current Sony HU and changer and then when I have enough money I will go for the decent Alpine  HU.

Hopefully this will improve my soundstage a little for a while and I can feel happy that I have started to buy some decent kit for a change.

Cheers
Jules