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What would be the most cost effective option for getting a 4WD Turbo'd lump in a Mk4 Golf? (S3's don't exist for this poll!)

A 4 Motion with a 1.8 T transplant?
5 (71.4%)
Or my1.8T with a 4WD conversion?
2 (28.6%)

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Offline Ivor Mk4 Turbo

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4M 1.8 T Transplant OR GTi 4WD Conversion!!!
« on: 15 May 2006, 13:11 »
ps Donor 1.8T lump for the 4M would have to be re-mapped like mine!

pps I'm thinking the first option, but has anyone got any experiencies or opinions?
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Re: 4M Turbo Conversion OR 1.8T 4WD Conversion!!!
« Reply #1 on: 15 May 2006, 14:02 »
You need a third option - turbocharge a 4mo.  This is far and away the best option.

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Re: 4M Turbo Transplant OR 1.8T 4WD Conversion!!!
« Reply #2 on: 15 May 2006, 18:11 »
You need a third option - turbocharge a 4mo. This is far and away the best option.

Mmmmm, interesting.....  2.8 T, eh??  Any reliability issues, though?
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Re: 4M 1.8 T Transplant OR GTi 4WD Conversion!!!
« Reply #3 on: 16 May 2006, 21:13 »
definetly go with super/turbocharging the 2.8, also much better sound from a v engine. Have you seen the HPA or HGP stuff as they turbo the r32
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Re: 4M 1.8 T Transplant OR GTi 4WD Conversion!!!
« Reply #5 on: 17 May 2006, 10:49 »
You realise a 4mo as standard has pretty much the same power as your 1.8T already ? the 2.8 V6 pulls differently.. more suited to the 4wd. You'd have to go 1.8T transplant AND big turbo to make it worthwhile. Either way you need 2 donor vehicles, not cheap.

There are companies who carry our 4wd conversions on 2wd mk4's. I think they were asking about 6 grand to do this last time i checked, not cheap.

Mr. Henry hit the nail on the head, supe up the V6 if you must. It can be a monster of an engine, supercharged or turbocharged. Would almost certainly be the cheapest option.

Why are you asking though ? Just curious or are you thinking of doing it ? 232 lbft through the front wheels shouldn't be a problem at all mate. If you're having trouble getting the power down look into getting a limited slip diff (LSD). Cheaper than the above 3 options and will do you just fine all the way upto, and beyond 300 lbft (the TDI boys are touching that with just a remap already)

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Re: 4M 1.8 T Transplant OR GTi 4WD Conversion!!!
« Reply #6 on: 17 May 2006, 12:45 »
I must confess, was more curious than anything.  Just thinking of the future! :lol 232lb will do me for now! :grin:

I only have to feather the throttle in the wet, which isn't really a drama though, TBH.

Only slight concern, would be that great big lump hanging over the front wheels.  Don't the 4M's understeer too easily?
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Re: 4M 1.8 T Transplant OR GTi 4WD Conversion!!!
« Reply #7 on: 17 May 2006, 13:01 »
nahhh not with proper suspension.. and especially not when they're 4wd :grin: power oversteer is fun !

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Re: 4M 1.8 T Transplant OR GTi 4WD Conversion!!!
« Reply #8 on: 17 May 2006, 13:39 »
Yeah, I used to have a lot of tail out fun in my old MGF Trophy 160  :embarassed:.  I Didn't have a clue what was happening through the front wheels, mind, thanks to a lack of communication through the steering wheel.

Anyway, I think for now, I'm just gonna stick with the 2.5" downpipe/sports cat & cat back.  I've got my Milltek (silenced) centre section, Am just waiting for a 4M style backbox to turn up somewhere!  (Or I could go down the blueflame route for £525 all in??? - Don't want anything too noisy, though.)
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