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Offline lowdown

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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #10 on: 03 January 2006, 00:41 »
Well....autobox doesn't like to be held on the brake, even in sport mode,
according to this link.
http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=2470517&fSectionId=844&fSetId=38

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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #11 on: 03 January 2006, 13:29 »
My A4 Multitronic did the same thing, as does my GTi DSG.
It's a feature of VAG vehicles.  You're more likely to notice the power cut-off if you left foot brake as opposed to "drag racing".

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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #12 on: 03 January 2006, 17:11 »
More test reports this time it's Evo magazine.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/53636/vw_golf_gti_dsg.html

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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #13 on: 19 January 2006, 19:09 »
Went for test drive today in a DSG(55 plate 5dr,500miles,demo),(having driven manual version some months ago). 

You can drive the car in 5 different ways:

  • D-fully automatic (kickdown sensor available)
    S-fully automatic Sport (redlines in all gears)
    Stick shift manual
    Paddle shift manual
    Combination of last 2

Where can we deploy these options?
D-obviously great for city/slow environments/anywhere.
S-Not sure
Stick-Manual gearbox substitute
Paddle-Race track
Combination of last two-changing gear when not steering straight ahead ie can't reach paddle.



The right choice for me now is a manual, because I don't drive in cities (well not very often), don't race other vehicles, and enjoy that involving left hand/left foot experience at regular intervals whilst at the wheel.  (No auto will ever be able to compete with my creamy changes!!)

Without doubt the DSG makes the GTi faster, and it's THE best automatic gearbox anywhere.  It's not better or worse than a manual, just different, and you should choose according to your driving environment and habits.


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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #14 on: 15 February 2006, 22:34 »
Just been interestingly readin gthat artive from lowdown.  VW kindly sent us to Donington Park pre-launch of the GTI in 2004.  Here, they proudly displayed the DSG gearbox as the best thing since a gearstick.  I happen to agree with them.

I'm going to have to try this again tomorrow at work but from what I remember when the pro drivers were giving us a run down on the cars before we played was that the DSG GTI is fitted with launch control. From memory.............ESP off (most important as it turns off the brake assist), selecter into S, left foot on brake and floor it. The car will rev to approx 3000rpm then hold this revs until you let go of the brake. As I said, i'm going to have to try it myself again but I've seen it done and it worked. Car revved highly then when he let go of the brake, it immediately accelarated with zero lag and would definately ot accelerate a manual from the line because teh turbo hasn't got to play catch up. It looks like the cars in that article had the ESp still switched on!

My thoughts, even for the money, DSG rocks!

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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #15 on: 12 March 2006, 17:27 »
Agreed roll on June.............................................................. :cry:

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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #16 on: 13 March 2006, 10:51 »
I'm afraid only manual will do for me - driving DSG is like having a shower with a raincoat on  :laugh:
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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #17 on: 13 March 2006, 13:14 »
I ised to have the same thoughts as you about DSG fella, the thing is!!!  The more you use it and the better you get with it, the better it is..  I now really rate the DSG box, you just need to leave it in sport and use launch control  :grin: :grin:

Launch control on the Audi can be used as many times as you like unlike the Beemers flappy shift  :wink:

1 - select sport
2 - turn off dsc/esp
3 - left foot on brake
4 - dial up 3000 rpm
5 - release brake
6 - hold on
7 - OMG that's mental from the misses is the norm  :evil:

Would love to try it with the R32.....

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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #18 on: 13 March 2006, 15:46 »
Well I think I will have a test drive just to see what al the fuss is about - in an R32 and a GTI  :rolleyes:
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Re: 6 speed manual or DSG?
« Reply #19 on: 28 March 2006, 09:20 »
Tested both, and agree it's the best of these systems - must be, as the Bugatti Veyron uses same type of system! - and faster than the manual, and easier to get a fast launch, but for me it took away the involvement.  I like the manual shift on the cars i tried, thought it was a good gearshift.

Also don't like the "buttons" being on the wheel, rather than paddles fixed to the column so that you always know where they are and which way round.

Also like to heel and toe on downshifts.

Maybe it would get better with more experience as an ownership proposition, but at present, no way would pay extra for it.

If it was free, might have been tempted, but still not certain.
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