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Offline MarkHowells

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Re: 6 months in...
« Reply #10 on: 30 July 2025, 19:04 »
Strap in as this is my 6 month review and it is long, but there is a lot to say about this Golf Gti. I can only compare my mk8.5 Gti DSG to my previous Golf Gti which was a manual 2018 mk7.5 GTi PP
Specification
•   Oyster Silver Metallic Black with black roof
•   Soul Black-Tornado Red interior
•   19” Queenstown alloy wheels
•   Adaptive Chassis Control DCC
•   Exterior styling package Black Style with Matrix headlights
•   Sound system Harmen Kardon, 8+1 speakers, 480W total power output, 12 channel amplifier & subwoofer

Initial cost savings by purchasing a nearly new
I initially went onto the VW website and used the configuration tool to spec up a brand new GTi with the above specification. I had a big shock when I saw the prices bearing in mind that I bought my mk7.5 GTi PP in 2018 which was 7 years ago. I paid about £34k for the mk7.5 and the mk8.5 (with the above spec) came in at £45.4K.
I had to ask myself if I was really happy about spending just over £45k for a GTi and then by sheer chance I found a used GTi advertised that matched my spec that was being used as a demonstration car by a VW dealer. Not only that, it was a staggering £8.4k cheaper than a brand new one and it was only 5 months old with 4k miles on the clock. So I bought it.

Exterior Styling
I couldn’t make my mind up with the colours, although the car looks great in white, I live in the countryside amongst a lot of farming vehicles and the roads are pretty muddy. So I thought that the Oyster Silver black option would work for me. The exterior of the mk8.5 looks sharper than the mk7.5 & mk8 and I liked this option as the black roof and blacked out front end seemed to go well with the Queenstown wheels. Not sure if it is my imagination, but the twin exhausts look bigger than the ones on the Mk7.5. I also think that the front and rear end lighting on the mk8.5 is a major improvement from the mk7.5 and the mk8. Although I have nothing against the standard GTi alloy wheels, I really think that the 19” Queenstown wheels look really good on the GTi.
After 6 months of ownership I am still pleased with my colour choice and have not seen another one the same colour on the road yet. I had the car detailed with a 2-year ceramic coating applied to it. The finish is extremely glossy and the car looks great – see photos

Interior styling
The new infotainment system layout is good and works well but the screen seems to be so big compared to the mk7.5. I went for the traditional classic GTi cloth tartan seats because to me, this defines a Gti and I think that these seats look great. In my opinion the interior quality of the mk8.5 is not as good as the mk7.5. I do like the ambient lighting as it has some nice touches.

Driving & comfort
There’s no doubt that both cars are great to drive.
There is a lot of technology in this car, most of the driving aids are good but some are a bit annoying. Rather than disabling the annoying ones every time I start up the car, I leave them all on and just learn to live with them.
I don’t think that the mk8.5 front seats are as comfortable as the mk7.5 front seats. There are certainly less adjustment options and it took a long time to find the best position for me.
I always use individual mode with the softest suspension setting with the exterior and interior engine sound in sport and everything else in comfort. To me, this is a nice set up for everyday driving.
This is the first car that I have driven without a manual gearbox so I can’t really comment on the DSG and I had to physically tuck my left foot under the seat to stop me from inadvertently operating the break thinking that it was the clutch pedal. The car seems to handle well, but I didn’t push it as I was still getting used to the DSG. I am glad that it has the DCC as I always leave it in comfort mode as the condition of the roads is shocking.
There are also more rattles in the mk8.5 probably due to the cheaper materials and plastics used. I think that this is no different to most new cars these days.
As the car didn’t come with a spare wheel, I have added a space saver spare wheel & jack kit.

Practicality
It is very well known that both the mk7.5 and mk8.5 are very practical cars. The boot space can be adjusted to make it a little deeper if you have a lot to carry. It is still a brilliant daily driver for both long and short journeys.
I am getting and average of 32 to 35 mpg but did manage to get 49 mpg on a steady trip from the South West to Oxford.

Engine, drive and performance
The exhaust sound on the mk8.5 doesn’t seem to be as loud as the mk7.5. I am sure that the mk7.5 had more pops, bangs and crackles.
I know that I am new to automatic gearboxes but occasionally when in D drive it can be a bit sluggish or uncertain about gear changes at times. Saying that, Sport mode is mind blowingly fast.
I do have a couple of niggles and the main one is the start/stop system. It was never really annoying on the mk7.5 manual, but with the mk8.5 DSG it does sometimes cut out when I am slowing down to almost a standstill at traffic lights or a queue of slow-moving traffic. The car isn’t even stationary and unless I bring it to a standstill the engine restarts itself again. The other one is that the autohold is a bit harsh when releasing the brakes and the car does tend to jerk forward rather than pull away smoothly.
Acceleration – Although there is a bit of a delay in acceleration between 2000 and 3000 revs, the mk8.5 feels much quicker than the mk7.5. It’s also a shame that there is still a noticeable amount of torque steer which at times can be quite scary, especially on the West Country narrow roads!
I have noticed that this engine consumed quite a bit of oil too. But from memory all Golf’s do.

Issues
Convenience window opening feature keeps stopping even after doing several resets.

Conclusion
This car is very enjoyable and makes me smile every time I walk up to it and every time I get in it (especially when I start it up).
This is a really good car. It looks good, feels good, sounds great and goes like a rocket.
OK it does not have the grunt or sound as good as the R and although the 0 – 60 is slower than the R, the acceleration is incredible and it is still a fast car. It is cheaper to run than the R without having to sacrifice too much on the performance.
Do I love it? Yes, I do.
Is it better than the mk7.5? Yes and no. Looks, performance and technologies are definitely better but the build quality, especially the interior is not as good. I just hope the build quality elsewhere is good and it turns out to be reliable.








Current: 2024 Golf GTI 8.5. Oyster Silver metallic black, black roof, Queenstown alloys, DCC, HK, spare wheel

Gone: 2018 Golf GTI 7.5 performance pack, Atlantic Blue, Santiago alloys, DCC.
Gone: 2014 Golf R, Lapiz Blue, Vienna leather, DCC.
Gone: 2011 Golf GTi, Reflex Silver.

Offline SRGTD

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Re: 6 months in...
« Reply #11 on: 30 July 2025, 19:52 »
@MarkHowells; very comprehensive write up. I think the combination of Oyster Silver, black roof and Queenstown alloys works really well :cool:. Although the mk8.5 exterior changes - compared to the mk8 - are very subtle, visually IMHO the mk8.5 is what the mk8 should have been. I agree on the seats - a GTI needs tartan cloth upholstery! (apologies to any leather seat lovers out there). It’s reassuring that your review doesn’t include a list of software gremlins so maybe VW have finally sorted most of the issues that affected the mk8.

On VW’s use of poorer quality materials - I’ve noticed VW build quality has become poorer with each of the five VW’s I’ve owned. My first VW back in 2002 was a mk4 Golf 150 bhp diesel; VW actually badged that car as a GTI (it was the ‘hot’ diesel at the time). Even though that car wasn’t great dynamically, build quality was excellent and it felt quite special and premium.
 
You may find your oil consumption slows down or even stops (I’ve read on some forums that this can happen over time). Your current oil consumption might be a consequence of how the car was driven by others when it was used as a dealer demonstrator car.

Hope your GTI ownership experience continues to be a positive and enjoyable one :smiley:.
2020 Polo GTI Plus; Pure White, DSG (because they all are)
Gone but not forgotten;
2016 Polo GTI; Blue Silk
2011 mk6 Golf GTD; Carbon Grey
2007 mk5 Golf GT (2.0 170bhp TDI version); Deep Black Pearl
2002  mk4 Golf GTI (the 150 bhp diesel version); Deep Black Pearl

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Re: 6 months in...
« Reply #12 on: 31 July 2025, 11:31 »
Hi, can you give some more details on the reduced adjustability of the seats please? I’ve a 7.5 at the moment and plan to order an ED50, but as a tall chap (6ft 2) I’m now a bit concerned about seating position. I thought the seats were fundamentally the same seat.

Thanks!

Offline MarkHowells

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Re: 6 months in...
« Reply #13 on: 31 July 2025, 17:18 »
Hi, can you give some more details on the reduced adjustability of the seats please? I’ve a 7.5 at the moment and plan to order an ED50, but as a tall chap (6ft 2) I’m now a bit concerned about seating position. I thought the seats were fundamentally the same seat.

Thanks!
The adjustments on the mk8.5 are
Backward and forward position
Height position via a pumping a lever
Backrest angle position
Lumbar

I am sure that on the Mk7.5 you can also adjust the angle of the flat part of the seat you rest your behind on
Current: 2024 Golf GTI 8.5. Oyster Silver metallic black, black roof, Queenstown alloys, DCC, HK, spare wheel

Gone: 2018 Golf GTI 7.5 performance pack, Atlantic Blue, Santiago alloys, DCC.
Gone: 2014 Golf R, Lapiz Blue, Vienna leather, DCC.
Gone: 2011 Golf GTi, Reflex Silver.

Offline CrunchtheApple78

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Re: 6 months in...
« Reply #14 on: 31 July 2025, 18:25 »
Thanks for the confirmation. This is the same as on my 7.5. The seat base angle changes as you increase the seat height. A bug bear of mine actually! Appreciate the info.