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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #50 on: 24 June 2024, 09:58 »
Yeah, but be aware that Dolphin Grey is great only when fully cleaned  :smiley: . Even a little rain + dust , and it becomes "another" grey colour.

The same could be said of pretty much all car paint colours - they look at their best when the car’s clean. Lighting conditions is also a factor - in good (bright) lighting conditions, with metallic and pearlescent colours the metal particles or mica flakes in the paint ‘pop’ and sparkle.

I’m all for an easy life these days though so my car’s Pure White, and IMHO Pure White paint looks good whatever the lighting conditions. Additionally;
  • it’s easy to maintain and hides swirls well (I always use a safe wash technique to minimise swirls, so not that much of an issue for me)
  • it also hides that layer of dust well that was very obvious on previous black and grey cars I’ve owned.
  • it’s an easy colour for fixing stone chip repairs so they’re not seen - not so easy to do with some metallic and pearlescent colours when doing DIY stone chip repairs
  • if you’re unfortunate enough to need paintwork / bodywork repairs, getting a good colour match between new and original paint shouldn’t be an issue either
  • with a GTI, the contrast of the red accents against the Pure White paint works well too
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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #51 on: 24 June 2024, 10:00 »
The 40k tax limit excludes the first year VED and first year registration which is included in the price on the VW website. So we have slightly more to spend on extras without hitting it!

Agree that the colour options are really disappointing...I think I'm going to go for Dolphin Grey. Will be ordering via drive the deal first thing tomorrow  :grin:

Good point Adam.  By your reckoning how much do you think you could spend on extras before you hit the £40k limit?

Obviously it would also depend on the unlikely scenario where there are no further price increases before delivery.
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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #52 on: 24 June 2024, 10:47 »
To jon87……Your GTI hasn’t dropped in value at all.

You are confusing purchase and trade in levels.

A dealer will look at a margin of £2,500 to £3,000 on any car, depending on lots of factors (too many to list actually).

Likewise, the trade-in offer will be based on many factors including assessment of the customer themselves.

So, factoring in all that plus “a few” months older and a few more miles and another owner on the log, I think your trade-in offer is pretty good.

If you were to buy your car today from the dealer, he would be asking much nearer what you paid for it.

If you want an independent valuation, try Motorway or similar.

However, this feeds into another forum topic “Where have all the Golfs gone?” and leads me to speculate whether prices for good 7.5s might not actually be on the way up ……apart from at VW dealer showrooms, obvs  :grin:

Would anyone like to give a dangerous opinion on current and future values of 7.5 GTIs????
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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #53 on: 24 June 2024, 10:53 »
Apologies to Mk8 members, this might better be a topic for the 7.5 forum but I was answering jon87 and got carried away!!!
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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #54 on: 24 June 2024, 13:03 »
Yeah, but be aware that Dolphin Grey is great only when fully cleaned  :smiley: . Even a little rain + dust , and it becomes "another" grey colour.

The same could be said of pretty much all car paint colours - they look at their best when the car’s clean. Lighting conditions is also a factor - in good (bright) lighting conditions, with metallic and pearlescent colours the metal particles or mica flakes in the paint ‘pop’ and sparkle.

I’m all for an easy life these days though so my car’s Pure White, and IMHO Pure White paint looks good whatever the lighting conditions. Additionally;
  • it’s easy to maintain and hides swirls well (I always use a safe wash technique to minimise swirls, so not that much of an issue for me)
  • it also hides that layer of dust well that was very obvious on previous black and grey cars I’ve owned.
  • it’s an easy colour for fixing stone chip repairs so they’re not seen - not so easy to do with some metallic and pearlescent colours when doing DIY stone chip repairs
  • if you’re unfortunate enough to need paintwork / bodywork repairs, getting a good colour match between new and original paint shouldn’t be an issue either
  • with a GTI, the contrast of the red accents against the Pure White paint works well too

Moonstone grey is another easy colour to live with. Though it's not metallic.

Kings Red as well. Still a good colour even with a bit dirt on it.

Dolphin Grey - no way  :smiley: But if you wash your car regularly - you will see a descent colour  :smug:

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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #55 on: 25 June 2024, 08:55 »
To jon87……Your GTI hasn’t dropped in value at all.

You are confusing purchase and trade in levels.

A dealer will look at a margin of £2,500 to £3,000 on any car, depending on lots of factors (too many to list actually).

Likewise, the trade-in offer will be based on many factors including assessment of the customer themselves.

So, factoring in all that plus “a few” months older and a few more miles and another owner on the log, I think your trade-in offer is pretty good.

If you were to buy your car today from the dealer, he would be asking much nearer what you paid for it.

If you want an independent valuation, try Motorway or similar.

However, this feeds into another forum topic “Where have all the Golfs gone?” and leads me to speculate whether prices for good 7.5s might not actually be on the way up ……apart from at VW dealer showrooms, obvs  :grin:

Would anyone like to give a dangerous opinion on current and future values of 7.5 GTIs????

Exactly this, something you just have to accept, what you pay is not the value of the car, its value of the car + the buying protection and warranty protection.

We bought a MK 7.5 R last September with list price of £25000, would say be lucky to get £19500 trade in now, and £20-£21000 private sale. I would still have to pay the list price of £25000 now for a decent MK 7.5 Golf R, they not really dropped since last September.

I knew this going in though, I had a trade in, which managed to agree a better price than expected, so VW approved was only way was completely comfortable with, and still preferred over pay maybe £2000 less for some of the private sales that was seeing at the time, with very little comeback and warranty, (though you could add a VW warranty latterly if car has FVSH)

Personally, realise as soon as drive car off forecourt its worth about £2000 less immediately, but its likely car going to keep for 3yrs at least, so £ are worth the peace of mind, and when it does come to sale, time elapsed has you take a "is what it is" when value is given for likely trade in.

Cars have always been a depreciating asset, you spend the money for the pleasure, thats the investment, and personally not regret a £ spent to date on any of mine,

Be in the market for a late MK 7.5 next year to replace the 128Ti, and do think the cars at £25000 now, will be more £22500 by then, think the MK 8.5 will send more MK 7.5 to the market place and soften market just that smidge more.
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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #56 on: 25 June 2024, 09:01 »
Yeah, but be aware that Dolphin Grey is great only when fully cleaned  :smiley: . Even a little rain + dust , and it becomes "another" grey colour.

The same could be said of pretty much all car paint colours - they look at their best when the car’s clean. Lighting conditions is also a factor - in good (bright) lighting conditions, with metallic and pearlescent colours the metal particles or mica flakes in the paint ‘pop’ and sparkle.

I’m all for an easy life these days though so my car’s Pure White, and IMHO Pure White paint looks good whatever the lighting conditions. Additionally;
  • it’s easy to maintain and hides swirls well (I always use a safe wash technique to minimise swirls, so not that much of an issue for me)
  • it also hides that layer of dust well that was very obvious on previous black and grey cars I’ve owned.
  • it’s an easy colour for fixing stone chip repairs so they’re not seen - not so easy to do with some metallic and pearlescent colours when doing DIY stone chip repairs
  • if you’re unfortunate enough to need paintwork / bodywork repairs, getting a good colour match between new and original paint shouldn’t be an issue either
  • with a GTI, the contrast of the red accents against the Pure White paint works well too

Moonstone grey is another easy colour to live with. Though it's not metallic.

Kings Red as well. Still a good colour even with a bit dirt on it.

Dolphin Grey - no way  :smiley: But if you wash your car regularly - you will see a descent colour  :smug:

Last 6 cars have been Brilliant Black and Mythos Black, Pure White, Lapiz, Pure Grey and Pure White again on current Golf R and by the hardest colour to keep were the blacks, looks patchy in the winter, swirls galore in summer unless put some graft in.

Lapiz was not the worst, middling,

Pure Grey was pretty good, low maintenance, but white is by far the best, it just greys in winter and you see nothing but shine even on a basic wash, and on the MK 7.5 Golf R with the Gloss Trim, the Stormtrooper look, always looks the part.

For someone who details, sure paint resilience is not an issue as they keep it tip top regardless, for folk like me, who only really clean it properly once a year and just jet wash muck off inbetween, paint colour resilience is a bigger factor.
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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #57 on: 25 June 2024, 10:21 »
My suggestion for any colour you are considering is to see one in the flesh.

I looked at all of the Mk8 colours when it first arrived.

Dolphin Grey wasn't good at all IMHO and Kings Red was more bergundy... like some grandad's old peugeot.

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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #58 on: 25 June 2024, 12:13 »
Dolphin grey looks quite flat and borderline dull imo in overcast dull weather, there's not much "pop" to it unless the sun is shining and the car is clean. Yes all colours look best in bright sunshine when spotlessly clean but dolphin seems to suffer more than the others when cloudy/dirty! Its also quite dark, borderline "light black" so I wonder if its hard work maintenance wise...

Agree, kings red is another funny one... in some pics it looks really great, hence VW themselves using it on launch cars and promo material. But I've seen it on various different VW's and in the metal it does kinda look "burgundy".

I think either of the whites are a good bet in terms of looks and ease of maintenance. Not sure if the Oryx is worth the hefty premium but there is a nice "shimmer" to it in certain lights. And then there is Moonstone grey which always looks very striking imo. My wife has it on her ID4 and it does look the business. Bonus points for being a lot cheaper than some of the other options.
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Re: New Golf GTI open for order £38,900 OTR
« Reply #59 on: 25 June 2024, 16:35 »
My suggestion for any colour you are considering is to see one in the flesh.

I looked at all of the Mk8 colours when it first arrived.

Dolphin Grey wasn't good at all IMHO and Kings Red was more bergundy... like some grandad's old peugeot.

Bloody cheek, Fred!  Good job, I'm an old grandad or I might have been deeply offended.  :laugh:

Personally, I love mine in Kings Red, especially when it's clean. It's another colour that looks different in different light conditions.
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