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Offline fredgroves

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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #290 on: 12 November 2023, 20:47 »
I've not had a steering wheel swap... But did have a infotainment swap!

Bongs largely fixed except for condensation causing problems with the camera on autumn mornings...
Current: Mk8 GTI DSG, Adelaides, DCC, HUD, HK, Winter Pack, Rear Camera.. Aka "HMS Weasel"

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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #291 on: 12 November 2023, 21:42 »
As the person who started this thread I can report that (touch wood) the bongs have been pretty much absent since the new steering wheel was fitted.
As fredgroves mentioned there, the condensation related camera issue is starting to make itself known on chilly morning cold starts but soon settles down once the car is a mile or two up the road.

I haven’t had an infotainment unit swap or SOS controller replaced, all have been largely fine in my experience.

Mind you, aside from very occasional rear parking sensor errors in the first couple of years, mine wasn’t too bad full stop until the software was updated to 1896 at last service.

If there’s an update installed at the next service in a few weeks it may well all kick off again
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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #292 on: 12 November 2023, 23:35 »
I can’t say I’ve noticed any condensation related camera issues myself, but for those that do it shouldn’t persist for long after start,  as the area around the lens has a heating element, here shown in the picture I took in January while heavily frosted.

Current -
8.5 GTI, Dolphin, Pan roof, Area view, DCC, Queenstown wheels, HUD, HK, Spare wheel.

Gone -
2022 Mk8 GTI DSG, Kings Red.
2020 BMW M135i xDrive, Storm Bay Metallic.
2016 Mk7 GTI DSG, Carbon Grey.
2010 Mk6 GTI Manual, Carbon Grey.
2009 Mk6 GTI DSG, Black Pearl.
2008 Mk5 GT sport DSG, Glacier White.
2003 Mk4 R32, Reflex Silver.
2002 Mk4 GTI, Indigo blue pearl.
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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #293 on: 13 November 2023, 10:50 »
I try to remember to wipe the front vw badge off too if it’s cold

The Mk7 radar in the lower grill was also heated, I believe the the radar on the 7.5 and 8 which are behind the badge also have a heating element, I don’t know how effective they’d be though with the badge over them, some pictures of the 8.5 show it with the radar relocated to the lower grill, if that is the final position, it could be that cold weather obstruction is a reason for the change?!?
Current -
8.5 GTI, Dolphin, Pan roof, Area view, DCC, Queenstown wheels, HUD, HK, Spare wheel.

Gone -
2022 Mk8 GTI DSG, Kings Red.
2020 BMW M135i xDrive, Storm Bay Metallic.
2016 Mk7 GTI DSG, Carbon Grey.
2010 Mk6 GTI Manual, Carbon Grey.
2009 Mk6 GTI DSG, Black Pearl.
2008 Mk5 GT sport DSG, Glacier White.
2003 Mk4 R32, Reflex Silver.
2002 Mk4 GTI, Indigo blue pearl.
1991 AX GT.
1984 Mk1 XR2.
Plus many more.

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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #294 on: 13 November 2023, 13:07 »
I can’t say I’ve noticed any condensation related camera issues myself, but for those that do it shouldn’t persist for long after start,  as the area around the lens has a heating element, here shown in the picture I took in January while heavily frosted.


It does but it takes a little time, especially when you get those weird window fogging conditions at this time of year.

It doesn't last long - couple of miles and its sorted.

What I'm trying to say is that other than stupid software errors, you can get other issues with the sensors.
Current: Mk8 GTI DSG, Adelaides, DCC, HUD, HK, Winter Pack, Rear Camera.. Aka "HMS Weasel"

Gone: 2017 Mk7.5 GTD,manual, NavPro
Gone: 2014 Mk7 GTD, manual, NavPro, DCC

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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #295 on: 13 November 2023, 23:49 »
I can’t say I’ve noticed any condensation related camera issues myself, but for those that do it shouldn’t persist for long after start,  as the area around the lens has a heating element, here shown in the picture I took in January while heavily frosted.


It does but it takes a little time, especially when you get those weird window fogging conditions at this time of year.

It doesn't last long - couple of miles and its sorted.

What I'm trying to say is that other than stupid software errors, you can get other issues with the sensors.

Indeed! I totally agree, none will ever be completely bong free as you say, and neither should they be, environmental factors will always cause issues regardless of make or model, fog/frost/bright sun or dirt etc will inevitably have an effect on function, and thus at times will trigger a warning.
Current -
8.5 GTI, Dolphin, Pan roof, Area view, DCC, Queenstown wheels, HUD, HK, Spare wheel.

Gone -
2022 Mk8 GTI DSG, Kings Red.
2020 BMW M135i xDrive, Storm Bay Metallic.
2016 Mk7 GTI DSG, Carbon Grey.
2010 Mk6 GTI Manual, Carbon Grey.
2009 Mk6 GTI DSG, Black Pearl.
2008 Mk5 GT sport DSG, Glacier White.
2003 Mk4 R32, Reflex Silver.
2002 Mk4 GTI, Indigo blue pearl.
1991 AX GT.
1984 Mk1 XR2.
Plus many more.

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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #296 on: 21 November 2023, 17:29 »
So this last week I've had 3 OTA software updates arrive.

And the bongs are back...

Also noticed some weirdness with auto main beam too. When you first select it on it doesn't actually auto dip.

Which was nice for the other people.
Current: Mk8 GTI DSG, Adelaides, DCC, HUD, HK, Winter Pack, Rear Camera.. Aka "HMS Weasel"

Gone: 2017 Mk7.5 GTD,manual, NavPro
Gone: 2014 Mk7 GTD, manual, NavPro, DCC

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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #297 on: 21 November 2023, 17:45 »
Mine’s been doing random OTA updates since last Friday.
Still bong free (touch wood) and the only difference I’ve noticed are new radio icon tiles.
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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #298 on: 22 November 2023, 09:24 »
I'm getting a new steering wheel tomorrow but since updating the firmware ota last weekend the bongs have been constant and every time I turn the wheel.

It looks like others who have updated have had the bongs come back and even those who have had a new steering wheel.

So what's the odds of me getting a new steering wheel tomorrow and a firmware update coming in the next few months to set it all back off again?

I wonder what the percentage is of mk 8 owners who have been effected by these bongs.

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Re: Avon calling!
« Reply #299 on: 22 November 2023, 09:50 »
I think it is steering wheel related because i can induce a pile of bongs by pushing on the wheel at 3 and 9 oclock.

But if others still have them after a steering wheel replacement...

What i don't understand is why it was OK for a while until those bloody patches the other day.

I understand a hardware problem but why would a (minor) software change cause it to do this?
Current: Mk8 GTI DSG, Adelaides, DCC, HUD, HK, Winter Pack, Rear Camera.. Aka "HMS Weasel"

Gone: 2017 Mk7.5 GTD,manual, NavPro
Gone: 2014 Mk7 GTD, manual, NavPro, DCC